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    1. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 8
      Replying to @RichFelker @CopperheadOS

      The barrier to entry for Android app development basically ensures that only the worst or the most-dedicated developers actually produce any apps.

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    2. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS Apr 8
      Replying to @RichFelker

      Don't need Android Studio to do Android app development.

      3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. @michcioperz@m.atm.pl‏ @Michcioperz Apr 8
      Replying to @CopperheadOS @RichFelker

      Putting aside how actively Google is trying to remove all capabilities they can from the commandline tools Can you even create a new project using the official SDK without the IDE?

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS Apr 8
      Replying to @Michcioperz @RichFelker

      Of course, and what capabilities are missing there other than IDE features?

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. @michcioperz@m.atm.pl‏ @Michcioperz Apr 8
      Replying to @CopperheadOS @RichFelker

      Last time I tried, I couldn't find the relevant docs anymore

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    6. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 8
      Replying to @Michcioperz @CopperheadOS

      For whatever reason, even if it's not true, Google seems to want to create/preserve an image that there's this huge barrier to entry.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS Apr 8
      Replying to @RichFelker @Michcioperz

      There really isn't much of a barrier to entry and it works fine without the IDE. They encourage people to use the IDE because it has a lower barrier to entry than using the CLI tools, which work fine alone.

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    8. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 8
      Replying to @CopperheadOS @Michcioperz

      For some really warped idea of "barrier to entry"...

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS Apr 8
      Replying to @RichFelker @Michcioperz

      So what barrier to entry is there to downloading https://dl.google.com/android/repository/sdk-tools-linux-3859397.zip … from https://developer.android.com/studio/index.html … and using sdkmanager to update / install whatever you need?

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    10. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 8
      Replying to @CopperheadOS @Michcioperz

      That's a start and probably ok for lots of users (but buried and hard to find and not documented). They don't even have a link to the source anywhere I can find though.

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      Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 8
      Replying to @RichFelker @CopperheadOS @Michcioperz

      Looks like big distros (e.g. Debian) might have it packaged tho, in which case you get most of the benefits of source (trusted reproducible build, compat with whatever arch you're running not just x86_64, ...).

      8:02 AM - 8 Apr 2018
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        2. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS Apr 8
          Replying to @RichFelker @Michcioperz

          Debian has packages but it's a bad idea to use those. It's important to use the up-to-date tools and it really doesn't need to be installed system-wide. Can also decide to install the IDE later and it knows how to use an existing minimal SDK directory for the tools.

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        3. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 8
          Replying to @CopperheadOS @Michcioperz

          Well where do you get the sources to build the SDK? This is all so awful and undocumented.

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        4. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS Apr 8
          Replying to @RichFelker @Michcioperz

          Not sure why you're talking about building it now. A hello world tutorial doesn't really start with building glibc, binutils and GCC.

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        5. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Apr 8
          Replying to @CopperheadOS @Michcioperz

          A hello world tutorial doesn't start with installing some vendor's binaries for a particular arch/OS. It lets you get the right tools for your arch/OS, building them from source if needed.

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