Not sure what you mean there since I basically expect updating Ubuntu to nuke my whole system
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Some of us don't even consider Ubuntu Linux...
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Jokes aside, expectations on desktop-Linux ux from Ubuntu and the like are nothing like expectations on server, embedded, etc. setups where you control the whole integration.
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or slackware where nothing works for long, ever...but at least they don't use systemd
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Replying to @sfzombie13 @RichFelker and
hahahahaha I understand the hate for systemd, but honestly is it really that bad seems like it offers a lot of flexibility.
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Replying to @theTorfinnOlsen @RichFelker and
yes it really is that bad. it takes the linux philosophy of doing one thing and doing it really well and turns it into doing everything poorly.
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I get that it ruins the Linux philosophy of chaining together lots of smaller functional parts, but what is it specifically that people find so frustrating about it? It seems to me like it makes a few things easier at no real performance cost. I'm not a Linux admin though.
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Replying to @theTorfinnOlsen @sfzombie13 and
It makes all sorts of new failure modes possible and changes lots of behavior in incompatible ways.
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Replying to @RichFelker @theTorfinnOlsen and
The only thing it makes easier is shipping packages that automatically install themselves to start at boot, which distros like but competent deployment integrators/admins hate.
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It seems so counterintuitive to me because it seems like 80% of the commercial systems out there are probably systemd systems. So if the frustrations admins have with systemd were so widespread why did all the professional systems migrate in that direction?
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Most systems aren't administered by actual admins but developers or ppl in other roles who have no idea how to admin. "Press some buttons and it works....until it doesn't" is what lets them get by.
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Replying to @RichFelker @sfzombie13 and
Hahaha no doubt that's the reality isn't it? :D I think with the rapid spread of DevOps and "ShadowIT" it's only going to get significantly worse.
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