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    1. yan‏ @bcrypt Mar 23

      it's great making a product for linux users because they have such a low baseline expectation for things working out-of-the-box and will go to great lengths to help you debug

      32 replies 389 retweets 2,348 likes
    2. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Mar 23
      Replying to @bcrypt

      Low for out of the box, but extremely high for "once setup correctly".

      4 replies 3 retweets 33 likes
    3. Alexander Riccio‏ @ariccio Mar 23
      Replying to @RichFelker @bcrypt

      Not sure what you mean there since I basically expect updating Ubuntu to nuke my whole system

      1 reply 1 retweet 21 likes
    4. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Mar 23
      Replying to @ariccio @bcrypt

      Some of us don't even consider Ubuntu Linux...

      2 replies 1 retweet 40 likes
    5. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Mar 23
      Replying to @RichFelker @ariccio @bcrypt

      Jokes aside, expectations on desktop-Linux ux from Ubuntu and the like are nothing like expectations on server, embedded, etc. setups where you control the whole integration.

      1 reply 0 retweets 17 likes
    6. ralph headroom‏ @sfzombie13 Mar 24
      Replying to @RichFelker @ariccio @bcrypt

      or slackware where nothing works for long, ever...but at least they don't use systemd

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    7. Torfinn‏ @theTorfinnOlsen Mar 24
      Replying to @sfzombie13 @RichFelker and

      hahahahaha I understand the hate for systemd, but honestly is it really that bad seems like it offers a lot of flexibility.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. ralph headroom‏ @sfzombie13 Mar 25
      Replying to @theTorfinnOlsen @RichFelker and

      yes it really is that bad. it takes the linux philosophy of doing one thing and doing it really well and turns it into doing everything poorly.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. Torfinn‏ @theTorfinnOlsen Mar 25
      Replying to @sfzombie13 @RichFelker and

      I get that it ruins the Linux philosophy of chaining together lots of smaller functional parts, but what is it specifically that people find so frustrating about it? It seems to me like it makes a few things easier at no real performance cost. I'm not a Linux admin though.

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    10. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Mar 25
      Replying to @theTorfinnOlsen @sfzombie13 and

      It makes all sorts of new failure modes possible and changes lots of behavior in incompatible ways.

      1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Mar 25
      Replying to @RichFelker @theTorfinnOlsen and

      The only thing it makes easier is shipping packages that automatically install themselves to start at boot, which distros like but competent deployment integrators/admins hate.

      8:34 AM - 25 Mar 2018
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        2. Torfinn‏ @theTorfinnOlsen Mar 25
          Replying to @RichFelker @sfzombie13 and

          Thanks @RichFelker. I'm not a Linux Admin, but use it a fair bit and my goal this year is to truly understand the differences between SysVInit and Systemd systems that have created such a clear point of contention among admins. I don't have the practical experience yet.

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        3. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Mar 25
          Replying to @theTorfinnOlsen @sfzombie13 and

          I don't think anybody likes sysvinit. The false dichotomy was created by systemd pushers. There were literally at least 3 alternatives that had the advantages of systemd decades earlier.

          1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
        4. Torfinn‏ @theTorfinnOlsen Mar 25
          Replying to @RichFelker @sfzombie13 and

          That's an interesting consideration I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for bringing that to my attention.

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        2. Torfinn‏ @theTorfinnOlsen Mar 25
          Replying to @RichFelker @sfzombie13 and

          It seems so counterintuitive to me because it seems like 80% of the commercial systems out there are probably systemd systems. So if the frustrations admins have with systemd were so widespread why did all the professional systems migrate in that direction?

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Mar 25
          Replying to @theTorfinnOlsen @sfzombie13 and

          Most systems aren't administered by actual admins but developers or ppl in other roles who have no idea how to admin. "Press some buttons and it works....until it doesn't" is what lets them get by.

          1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Torfinn‏ @theTorfinnOlsen Mar 25
          Replying to @RichFelker @sfzombie13 and

          Hahaha no doubt that's the reality isn't it? :D I think with the rapid spread of DevOps and "ShadowIT" it's only going to get significantly worse.

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