Dear Linux Weenies: Quit "deprecating" standard tools. It's stupid. You're breaking compatibility with LITERALLY EVERY OTHER UNIX ON EARTH and you need to stop.https://twitter.com/nixcraft/status/976156288638840832 …
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Replying to @voretaq7
I mean at the same time I can kind of see some of the logic. Some of these tools (notoriously ifconfig) have options that interact in weird ways or produce output that's hard to parse, but you can't *change* any of it because you know someone's gonna depend on it anyway.
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Replying to @Random832
So add a new tool if you absolutely must, but don’t break LITERALLY 50 YEARS of accumulated practice, knowledge, and tools. If I have a broken machine I need to be able to use my muscle memory to quickly troubleshoot, not spend 10 minutes googling what new command I have to use.
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Replying to @voretaq7 @Random832
isn't that what's usually happening? I heard that e.g. ifconfig, iwconfig, more, dd are deprecated, netstat was new to me, but still every linux system has them.
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It's all nonsense. They all work fine and always will.
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Replying to @RichFelker @hanno and
Who’s recompiling these defunct tools to mitigate spectre?
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(1) Spectre can't be mitigated. (2) On a good distro, they're always recompiled with distro's current compiler & defaults.(3) They're not in the class of stuff affected by Spectre (not dealing with any sensitive data).
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Replying to @RichFelker @rnelson0 and
The "On a good distro" bit makes me chuckle because it's very true, and because it's true it also points to the incredible inconsistency within the Linux community and associated OS distributions. OS Roulette… or maybe Package Pachinko.
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Replying to @voretaq7 @RichFelker and
(I'm saying this as a dyed-in-the-wool BSD guy, where I know every new release of the OS means everything in the core OS was recompiled with the new toolchain - it's not something we ever even have to think about.)
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There's a lot of bad practices in BSD package management too, namely the whole world being one giant make without any easy way to build individual parts & w/o any portability...
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