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    1. fREW‏ @frioux 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker

      Phishing can still happen in that case, of course. Just not as "often" if you know what I mean

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    2. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @frioux

      Depends on how you access. There should be signature chains precluding it.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    3. fREW‏ @frioux 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker

      I don't see how that affects day to day users of web apps

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    4. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @frioux

      I think your model has users accessing web apps via links from other sites, which falls under "prompted for pw".

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    5. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker @frioux

      Should never be accessed except via bookmark or manually typed site name.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. fREW‏ @frioux 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker

      So you are saying emails shouldn't have links, basically?

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    7. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @frioux

      I'm saying login via a link (not just from email, from anywhere) should not be encouraged or even permitted.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. fREW‏ @frioux 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker

      Hard stance. I suspect many, many businesses would have to change significantly for that. And it wouldn't work till everyone (or the vast majority at least) did it anyway

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    9. fREW‏ @frioux 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @frioux @RichFelker

      Furthermore as a user it sounds like a nightmare. If I want to go straight to an interior page after a session is over I would no longer be able to, and would instead need to login via Doman or bookmark then go to interior page

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    10. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @frioux

      Idea of "after a session is over" is bogus. Login should be permanent for device/browsing context.

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      Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 11 Oct 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker @frioux

      Then there's not even any use for passwords. Just recovery mechanism.

      7:53 AM - 11 Oct 2017
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        2. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 11 Oct 2017
          Replying to @RichFelker @frioux

          Workflow should look something like: I click amazon product link, get a new tab in anonymous context. Decide I want to buy or add to list...

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        3. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 11 Oct 2017
          Replying to @RichFelker @frioux

          Click sign-in button on browser toolbar. Browser tells me either I don't have sign-in for this site (maybe it's fake/I never used it) or...

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        4. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 11 Oct 2017
          Replying to @RichFelker @frioux

          ...tells me I've visited it 268 times before and can switch to signed-in (start showing it mg cookies). No passwords anywhere.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. fREW‏ @frioux 11 Oct 2017
          Replying to @RichFelker

          Sounds great. Requires incredible change in both browsers and websites. Not something I can start doing in my organization any time soon 😉

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        6. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 11 Oct 2017
          Replying to @frioux

          There are lots of things that can be done now, but which are possible depends on what role you're in.

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        7. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 11 Oct 2017
          Replying to @RichFelker @frioux

          You can always, as a user, use bookmarks or manual entry to login to non-junk sites (esp Google or another primary email provider).

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 11 Oct 2017
          Replying to @RichFelker @frioux

          And as someone in security training/policy you can teach/insist your students/staff/whatever do it that way.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. fREW‏ @frioux 11 Oct 2017
          Replying to @RichFelker

          Yeah we have training for staff. Harder for casual customers.

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        2. fREW‏ @frioux 11 Oct 2017
          Replying to @RichFelker

          I mean I understand that superfuture but I just don't see banks, who can't even be bothered to support long passwords or pasting into new password fields, supporting something as radical as this.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        3. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 11 Oct 2017
          Replying to @frioux

          Banks are the most awful and backwards. Unless they have a function to send $ to new recipients they don't even need above-avg protection.

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        4. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 11 Oct 2017
          Replying to @RichFelker @frioux

          Most ppl just want read-only access to transaction log & bill-pay for existing billing accounts. No need to inconvenience or expose them.

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        5. fREW‏ @frioux 11 Oct 2017
          Replying to @RichFelker

          True.

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