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    1. Elazar Leibovich‏ @elazarl 29 Sep 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker @hyc_symas and

      Fact is, in Ada they did. At any rate, UB is hard to justify here IMHO, esp w/o UBsan. BTW Android sort-of doing trap with the new UB-runtim

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    2. Elazar Leibovich‏ @elazarl 1 Oct 2017
      Replying to @elazarl @RichFelker and

      Another thing I forgot about Power Tools analogy. *Very* easy to understand safety guide. C expert fail internalize C safe programming rules

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 1 Oct 2017
      Replying to @elazarl @hyc_symas and

      I don't think this is accurate. Most unsafe C is a consequence of breaking dead simple safety rules trying to be clever...

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 1 Oct 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker @elazarl and

      ...which is a lot like disabling safety mechanisms on tools for the sake of being "macho"/saving time/whatever.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 1 Oct 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker @elazarl and

      Unfortunately C has a huge corpus of utterly wrong examples, bad tutorials, bad teachers, etc. that new people learn to do these things from

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Elazar Leibovich‏ @elazarl 1 Oct 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker @hyc_symas and

      I hate to be blunt, but this is factually incorrect. Even w/o discussing details, code bases by C experts contain UB, crypto code from GOOG>

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Elazar Leibovich‏ @elazarl 1 Oct 2017
      Replying to @elazarl @RichFelker and

      >GCC code from the compiler makers. If it's so easy how come the experts keep making those misatkes, even musl;-) http://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2016/10/19/1 … >

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    8. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 1 Oct 2017
      Replying to @elazarl @hyc_symas and

      Yes, experts do this because they think they're smarter than they are. You can be smart enough once or ten times, but not N times as N→∞.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 1 Oct 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker @elazarl and

      But it's still conscious breaking of simple rules that they (we, me included) should be following.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    10. Elazar Leibovich‏ @elazarl 1 Oct 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker @hyc_symas and

      Even assuming this is correct. Think about it like a manager. The fact that no one can really keep those rules, makes them useless

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 1 Oct 2017
      Replying to @elazarl @hyc_symas and

      This I largely agree with, but there are mechanical ways to mostly enforce them.

      9:19 PM - 1 Oct 2017
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