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    1. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 26 Apr 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker @CopperheadOS

      Attempting to circumvent the intent/spirit of the GPL is not going to be looked upon kindly by FOSS communities or by the courts.

      1 reply 0 retweets 5 likes
    2. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 26 Apr 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker

      There are no rights being waived. The GPL doesn't say anything about entitlement to future versions of the software. Would not make sense.

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    3. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 26 Apr 2017
      Replying to @CopperheadOS @RichFelker

      The spirit of the GPL is about user freedom, not publishing code or contributing back. They aren't what the FSF cares about or tried to do.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    4. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 26 Apr 2017
      Replying to @CopperheadOS @RichFelker

      And all of those freedoms are intact. Future business relationship with the company producing the software is not one of the those freedoms.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    5. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 26 Apr 2017
      Replying to @CopperheadOS

      Forget about future vers; it's a distraction. If they said "if you exercise your rights under GPL, we'll kill a kitten" it'd infringe too.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    6. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 26 Apr 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker

      They aren't saying that, it's an assumption we're making: if a company published it, they likely wouldn't continue to do business with them.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 26 Apr 2017
      Replying to @CopperheadOS

      As soon as that happens, or as soon as they in any way suggest that that might happen, there's grounds for litigation.

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    8. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 26 Apr 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker

      By Linux kernel developers, not the customer. There are no grounds for one of their customers to sue since it's not their software license.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 26 Apr 2017
      Replying to @CopperheadOS @RichFelker

      Linux kernel industry standards and cultural norms are not the place to look if you're expecting such strong GPL enforcement...

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    10. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 26 Apr 2017
      Replying to @CopperheadOS

      Kernel developers are lax over inconsequential infringements like missing changelogs, wrong way of conveying src, unmodified use, etc...

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      Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 26 Apr 2017
      Replying to @RichFelker @CopperheadOS

      I don't think that means you should expect them to tolerate production of a commercial closed-source derived work...

      1:18 PM - 26 Apr 2017
      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker 26 Apr 2017
          Replying to @RichFelker @CopperheadOS

          ...especially by a party they have a long history of hostility with.

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        3. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 26 Apr 2017
          Replying to @RichFelker

          It's not closed source. Customers buy the source code. They don't purchase binaries. Public vs. non-public is irrelevant to the GPL.

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        4. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 26 Apr 2017
          Replying to @CopperheadOS @RichFelker

          GPL doesn't require publicly publishing source code, but rather giving it to customers under the terms of the GPL. That's the *product*.

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        5. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 26 Apr 2017
          Replying to @CopperheadOS @RichFelker

          The product is not a kernel build. It's the grsecurity patch, applied by the customer to their kernels and run on their servers.

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        6. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 26 Apr 2017
          Replying to @CopperheadOS @RichFelker

          The users with rights granted by the GPL are the grsecurity customers, who are purchasing the patches to apply to their kernels.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        7. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 26 Apr 2017
          Replying to @CopperheadOS @RichFelker

          Even if the patches were not GPL compatible (and they are), is it infringement to distribute them as source code or only to build/run them?

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. CopperheadOS‏ @CopperheadOS 26 Apr 2017
          Replying to @CopperheadOS @RichFelker

          Is ZFS on Linux infringing on the GPL simply by publishing the sources, or the infringement (if any) when users build and run that code?

          0 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
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