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Yeah, I do @musllibc, FOSS & infosec stuff. But now is not the time for a mostly-/only-tech Twitter feed.

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    1. Filippo Valsorda‏Verified account @FiloSottile Sep 7

      Filippo Valsorda Retweeted x0rz

      HN: URLs are perfect and hiding “www.” breaks HTTPS!! Meanwhile, in the real world...https://twitter.com/x0rz/status/1038050986345066496 …

      Filippo Valsorda added,

      x0rz @x0rz
      Domain name looks like an official icloud service, you know how this ends for most people. This is a very simple #phishing, yet very effective. pic.twitter.com/BDuGBcyx7E
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    2. Filippo Valsorda‏Verified account @FiloSottile Sep 7

      Techies seem to think hiding “www.” is bad for the same reasons we are drawn to victim-blaming phishing targets. “We understand subdomains, we can read URLs, it’s all right there, why don’t they!”

      2 replies 2 retweets 14 likes
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    3. Filippo Valsorda‏Verified account @FiloSottile Sep 7

      This is an indication that we are still building tech for ourselves, not for our users. It’s time tech realizes what enormous responsibility it has.

      3 replies 5 retweets 29 likes
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    4. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Sep 7
      Replying to @FiloSottile

      Hiding "www." won't make this go away at least for a generation, until nobody remembers it ever having existed. Making the browser flag 2nd-level (or any) domains beginning with "www-" with big red PHISHING WARNING would fix it overnight.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    5. Filippo Valsorda‏Verified account @FiloSottile Sep 7
      Replying to @RichFelker

      I’m not saying hiding “www.” solves that phishing case, just that claiming nobody has issues with URLs and so we don’t need to improve how we show them is laughable. Also, warning fatigue is a thing, SafeBrowsing is a thing, nothing is fixed overnight and fixed rules get bypassed

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    6. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Sep 7
      Replying to @FiloSottile

      OK. I still think "let's hide more information" is an awful idea that's going to break things and lead to *more* phishing, if not less, on top of more centralization of authority.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    7. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Sep 7
      Replying to @RichFelker @FiloSottile

      Making the browser watch out for the user and act in their interests (rather than publisher's interests) seems like a much better approach. But mindless addition of features to make publishers happy has made that hard...

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Giacomo Tesio‏ @giacomotesio Sep 7
      Replying to @RichFelker @FiloSottile

      IMHO we are facing a cultural issue here. It's pretty evident even in our language. We need to widen the perspective looking beyound our specific application: we should think about people as people not just as "users". A good UI serves people. And as of today... 1/

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    9. Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Sep 7
      Replying to @giacomotesio @FiloSottile

      I use the word "user" intentionally to reflect which person's interests it needs to serve, because I believe at the direct user-device interface, an individualist perspective is needed. You can't trust & feel comfortable using a device serving someone else's interests over yours.

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    10. Giacomo Tesio‏ @giacomotesio Sep 7
      Replying to @RichFelker @FiloSottile

      In the very instant you reduce the person to a user of your application, you are not serving her interest anymore, but your own.

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      Rich Felker‏ @RichFelker Sep 7
      Replying to @giacomotesio @FiloSottile

      Completely disagree. Maybe there's a language barrier here. Demanding that software work for the user/in their interests, as opposed to "for people" (who might not care about this specific person's interests, e.g. DRM working "for artists") is not "reducing them".

      3:08 PM - 7 Sep 2018
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        2. Giacomo Tesio‏ @giacomotesio Sep 7
          Replying to @RichFelker @FiloSottile

          Definitely a language barrier. Sorry, my fault. The software should serve each person that uses it, but not reduce such person to "the agent that uses the software". And people (as plural of person) need to be educated about software through software.

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        3. Giacomo Tesio‏ @giacomotesio Sep 7
          Replying to @giacomotesio @RichFelker @FiloSottile

          It's not a technical issue. It is a political one. People cannot trust us. Thus they need to become like us. They need to understand networking, systems, cryptography and even a bit of statistics. Because each time they trust us, we fool them somehow.

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