Why are you so set on urinary tract infections when they're generally very easily treatable, and women get them far more often than any man cut or not? :/
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Replying to @KhazWolf @_Undersized_ and
But if you insist on this point, then I believe I already explained, those who claim reduction in UTIs fully admit that ONLY applies to the first years of life, any "benefit" disappears after that. Probably because the only real way a foreskin increases UTIs is with phimosis?
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Replying to @KhazWolf @_Undersized_ and
Did I go over preputioplasty with you yet? I can't remember this has gone on too long
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Replying to @KhazWolf @Gregory_Malchuk and
Yes, you did. Chronic infection in the first years of life can lead to damaged immune systems. Preputioplasty doesn’t treat damaged immune systems or the infections. You’re assuming that UTIs are caused by phimosis without evidence, just so you can point to preputioplasty.
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Replying to @_Undersized_ @Gregory_Malchuk and
How the fuck does circumcision treat a damaged immune system? :v
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Replying to @KhazWolf @Gregory_Malchuk and
It doesn’t, I never said it did. However, it lowers rate of further infection, preventing the immune system from being damaged in the first place. However, without treatment, the immune system gets damaged- technically doing harm through inaction. On a common infection, too.
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Replying to @_Undersized_ @KhazWolf and
The ischemic necrosis death of the foreskin is harm.
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Replying to @Gregory_Malchuk @KhazWolf and
Ischemic necrosis is bone tissue. Preventing further infection and later death is not harm. It follows every hippocratic rule modern doctors like to abide by. You know, the “do no harm” stuff you see on TV.
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Replying to @_Undersized_ @Gregory_Malchuk and
Technically it's tissue death caused by the loss of oxygenated blood flow to the tissue, this tissue death is caused by the clamps used in circumcisions, so it is accurate. And it is harm, that's why surgery is a last resort in medicine evrywhere else, because it's harmful. >>
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Replying to @ReyosB @_Undersized_ and
2> The problem is that removal of this particular piece of tissue isn't seen as harm. I put to you that the removal of any healthy tissue from the body is harm, and the vast majority of medical circumcisions happen before there is a medical need, making them harmful operations.>>
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3> No one, but perhaps the furthest fringe of the Intactivist movement, are looking to ban circumcisions that are actually medically necessary, the issue is that it's a very, very tiny percentage of those circumcisions that are done for such reasons before the age a boy can >>
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Replying to @ReyosB @_Undersized_ and
4> make his own medical decisions, these are the circumcisions we want to blanket ban, the ones that are done before there are recurring infections, before there is actual phimosis, not the natural tightness and non retractile foreskin of childhood.
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