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    Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

    Respectable Lawyer Retweeted New York Post

    THREAD: Did the Covington Kid just score millions of dollars? People won't stop asking me about this headline, bullying me into writing this long explanation of why it's obvious the suit against the Washington Post was settled for peanuts. So here goes.https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1286702979060510726 …

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    New York PostVerified account @nypost
    Washington Post settles $250M suit with Covington teen Nick Sandmann https://trib.al/HHw2p1u  pic.twitter.com/rAXFp1kzcC
    8:54 PM - 26 Jul 2020
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    • Quincy Hughes tombobbishop Adam Scharman Nole bread acquisitionist 𝙼𝚊𝚛𝚕𝚘 𝚂𝚝𝚊𝚗𝚏𝚒𝚎𝚕𝚍 IamtheWingnut Gaston .
    154 replies 2,520 retweets 6,898 likes
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      2. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        It’s important to note that I wouldn’t even have to write something like this if mainstream media news desks even bothered to do halfway decent legal analysis. But here we are.

        13 replies 146 retweets 2,522 likes
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      3. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        So a lot of people seem to think Sandmann won a meaningful amount of money, but every part of this, from the procedural history, the timing, the announcement, the relevant law, all of it confirms Sandmann was paid mere nuisance value.

        9 replies 146 retweets 1,703 likes
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      4. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        First, let’s look at the announcement:pic.twitter.com/enZlSiKcds

        2 replies 53 retweets 1,133 likes
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      5. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        Right off the bat, it’s clear this isn’t the kind of the statement you would make if you just scored a big pay-day off the Post. This is a statement trying to justify why Sandmann bowed out. And notice the reference to the correction. That will be important later.

        3 replies 72 retweets 1,544 likes
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      6. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        So dial back the clock a few months ago. At first, the judge in the case dismissed all 33 of Sandman’s claims against the Post, finding no possibility of prevailing. Sandman’s counsel made a plea for reconsideration.

        2 replies 75 retweets 1,328 likes
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      7. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        In a second order, the judge agreed to restore three of Sandman’s claims because it was still theoretically possible he could prevail if certain evidence was discovered. Those three claims involve statements about blocking Phillips:pic.twitter.com/rgj67oRQQY

        1 reply 47 retweets 1,037 likes
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      8. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        The problem with those three claims is that they are based on statements Nathan Phillips made to the Post, which reported his words. That’s why discovery is needed on the context. Because absent something really weird, newspapers can generally report what third-parties say.

        5 replies 54 retweets 1,194 likes
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      9. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        Sandmann would have to find evidence that at the time of the initial video, no newspaper would have published Philip’s account. In other words, Sandman had to disprove the Post’s “good faith reliance” on a third-party’s account. As the Post argued:pic.twitter.com/pokdmVfdxb

        1 reply 56 retweets 1,062 likes
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      10. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        Under this defense, a newspaper can report what a third-party said unless it knew the third-party was lying or if the newspaper knew the third-party was so chronically unreliable that nobody would ever believe them about anything.

        11 replies 44 retweets 977 likes
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      11. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        As the judge noted, it was technically possible for Sandmann to prevail if he could prove the Post knew Nathan Phillips was lying, or if the Post knew Nathan Phillips was a known liar:pic.twitter.com/C1SOXaZyv9

        4 replies 40 retweets 878 likes
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      12. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        So assume for a moment Sandmann could prove that what Phillips said wasn’t “substantially true” in the legal sense – i.e., his path of travel wasn’t blocked. He would still have to prove the Post knew Phillips was lying about being blocked by the teens.

        2 replies 34 retweets 897 likes
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      13. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        Alternatively, Sandmann must prove the Post knew Phillips was “chronically unreliable,” which is nearly impossible, especially considering Phillips was unknown to the Post at the time of the reporting.

        3 replies 36 retweets 887 likes
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      14. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        You have to show the publisher possessed information showing multiple documented lies in a recognizable pattern. And you have to show the Post ACTUALLY possessed information about Phillips, not that it SHOULD have possessed it.

        3 replies 31 retweets 906 likes
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      15. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        So this is functionally impossible with Phillips because a history of past crimes or bad acts won’t do it, only repeated documented lies on similar matters. And it’s also obvious the Post knew nothing about Phillip’s past at all on the day this happened anyway.

        1 reply 30 retweets 842 likes
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      16. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        A weird feature of defamation law is that it frequently rewards willful ignorance and a failure to investigate, at least on these kind of subjective knowledge questions. I don’t think it’s the way the law should be, but it is. You must prove the Post knew.

        2 replies 46 retweets 979 likes
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      17. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        But let’s assume Sandmann could clear this series of increasingly impossible hurdles. The problem is the Post’s correction that Sandmann’s attorney mentioned. Why is that important?https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/03/01/editors-note-related-lincoln-memorial-incident/ …

        1 reply 34 retweets 721 likes
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      18. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        Because like most states, Kentucky (where the suit was filed) has a law prohibiting any punitive or exemplary damages when a newspaper publishes a correction in response to a person’s demand for retraction. https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/law/statutes/statute.aspx?id=17757 …

        1 reply 54 retweets 935 likes
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      19. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        Technically, you could still recover punitive or exemplary damages if you prove The Post committed actual malice, but it’s well understood that actual malice is the kiss of death for a lawsuit, especially in breaking new stories. Zero chance of malice here.

        4 replies 34 retweets 841 likes
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      20. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        So even assuming Sandmann could clear each impossible hurdle, he would only be able to recover actual damages. And discovery would likely prove Sandmann had little to none. By all indications, he is doing ok, and in fact has become a beloved micro-celebrity in MAGA world.

        1 reply 55 retweets 958 likes
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      21. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        So when Sandmann was given the chance to make document requests and take testimony from the Post and submit himself for testimony, he chose not to go forward.

        3 replies 59 retweets 893 likes
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      22. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        The Washington Post is insured by a commercial insurance carrier, and I have sued commercial carriers my entire career. They are not settling a case for any significant amount of money without a deposition of the plaintiff.

        8 replies 70 retweets 1,202 likes
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      23. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        There’s many reasons for this, most notably that you can’t accurately gauge your exposure until you understand the plaintiff and what their damages are. Not to mention that when a lawsuit collapses into dust, 90% of the time it happens in the plaintiff’s deposition.

        2 replies 35 retweets 886 likes
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      24. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        Here, that collapse had already happened. Who cares what admissions you can secure in a plaintiff’s deposition when his case has been rendered worthless and he’s willing to exit for nuisance value?

        1 reply 33 retweets 831 likes
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      25. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        Nuisance value is determined by how much it would cost to defend the suit until dismissal. The Post knows it will win on this issue, but also knows Sandmann could cause it incur expenses by litigating until summary judgment happens.

        2 replies 49 retweets 819 likes
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      26. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        In this situation, I’d estimate the legal fees incurred by the insurance company if they conduct discovery on this issue and then argue summary judgment is on the magnitude of $200,000.

        3 replies 40 retweets 773 likes
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      27. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        So a settlement in that situation needs to be quite a bit below $200k for the carrier to be financially incentivized to provide Sandmann a graceful, confidential exit from the suit that saves face. $50k is a good guess.

        10 replies 81 retweets 1,034 likes
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      28. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        And you also have to remember that Sandmann was represented by Lin Wood, who was a decent trial lawyer 20 years ago, but has since become an aging weirdo who promotes QAnon, as you see from his WWG1WGA bio:pic.twitter.com/S7iqkm7Evt

        14 replies 114 retweets 1,381 likes
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      29. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        A wealthy trial lawyer isn’t what we usually picture when we think of the sad world of QAnon, but the fastest growing adherents are rich boomers got sucked into this dumb Tom Clancy-esque roleplay nonsense after getting bored waiting for the Rapture.

        19 replies 376 retweets 2,759 likes
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      30. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        You may remember Lin Wood for botching the Elon Musk defamation trial. He made bizarre choices, including making Musk his first witness. Instead of systematically making the jury dislike him over the course of the trial, he opened by letting the billionaire have the spotlight.

        5 replies 61 retweets 1,070 likes
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      31. Respectable Lawyer‏ @RespectableLaw 26 Jul 2020

        Respectable Lawyer Retweeted Ryan Mac  🙃

        And like a lot of old weird trial lawyers, Wood rubbed the judge the wrong way. But at least we got the delightful “JustBalls dot com” exchange (and yet another time Elon came off as charming and made the jury laugh).https://twitter.com/RMac18/status/1202363221111271425 …

        Respectable Lawyer added,

        Ryan Mac  🙃Verified account @RMac18
        Wood got stonewalled by objections and the judge after that and kind of got flustered. He clearly does not have a great relationship with the judge. He concluded but not before asking about http://justballs.com  in his thick southern accent. This is gonna haunt me.
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