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    1. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Aug 14
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      Sarah Mei Retweeted Daniel Kelley

      SHOCKED. I am SHOCKED that a company full of biased people who don't think they're biased wrote a biased algorithm.https://twitter.com/danieljkelley/status/1161261463530614784 …

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      Daniel Kelley @danieljkelley
      "One of the algorithms incorrectly flagged 46% of inoffensive tweets by African American authors as offensive. Tests on bigger datasets, found that posts by African American authors were 1.5 times more likely to be labelled as offensive. " https://www.technologyreview.com/f/614144/googles-algorithm-for-detecting-hate-speech-looks-racially-biased/?utm_campaign=the_download.unpaid.engagement&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=75630474&_hsenc=p2ANqtz-8zq4niBObVH51plBAjL7z9Z8PqtWQwXhTH9V2OGzI07kfpveDasz4uHhtTP4iRvLB1C9bsg7Y1IEJObPX4RaiR3bzu6Q&_hsmi=75630474 …
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    2. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Aug 14
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      "I took unconscious bias training, so now it's fixed!"pic.twitter.com/ejgTxm92b1

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    3. Sarah Mei‏Verified account @sarahmei Aug 14
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      Sarah Mei Retweeted Mark Bessey

      This is a great point. "Algorithm" does seem a bit insufficient when you're talking about huge distributed systems displaying emergent behavior that tracks the emergent behavior of the people who created them.https://twitter.com/mbessey/status/1161708260769972224?s=20 …

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      Mark Bessey @mbessey
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      I feel like we need a different word for these ML systems, other than “algorithm”. A giant matrix multiplication of thousands of (essentially) arbitrary factors is not an algorithm, in any useful sense.
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      Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH Aug 14
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      Replying to @sarahmei

      The term might be "heuristic", if you use Stafford Beer's definitions. Algorithm: a set of instructions for reaching a known goal. Heuristic: a set of instructions for searching out an unknown goal by exploration.

      12:22 PM - 14 Aug 2019
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        2. Cardigans Of The Galaxy‏ @TonyRGray Aug 14
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          My internal shorthand is a heuristic is a strategy for finding an algorithm.

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        3. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH Aug 14
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          This is interesting! Beer spends a lot of time talking about how algorithms can produce heuristics, and vice versa, and how this figures into cybernetics.

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        4. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH Aug 14
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          Replying to @ReinH @TonyRGray @sarahmei

          (This is all in The Brain of the Firm)

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        5. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH Aug 14
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          Replying to @ReinH @TonyRGray @sarahmei

          As he points out, "we tend to live our lives by heuristics, and to try and control them by algorithms".

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        6. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH Aug 14
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          And, rather presciently, "the need for [heuristics] arises once the computer becomes alive with fast-flowing information". And "if the goal is not recognized in detail, an heuristic is required, so the computer must be supplied with an algorithm determining an heuristic".

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        7. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH Aug 14
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          Replying to @ReinH @TonyRGray @sarahmei

          He gives path-finding as an example of an algorithm specifying a heuristic. We don't know where the highest point is, we know how to construct a heuristic that might find it.

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        8. Senior Oops Engineer‏ @ReinH Aug 14
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          Replying to @ReinH @TonyRGray @sarahmei

          So TL;DR yes, I think that is a good shorthand!

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