Let's just pause a moment and reject the false equivalency here.
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It’s not false. Bans *never* work as long as there remains a market for the goods or services being banned. Drugs, alcohol, gambling, prostitution... You need to kill the market for a ban to work, which requires making people not want the banned thing in the 1st place.
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That depends on how you define "work." Banning certain things works just fine. I agree that education and a culture shift is necessary, but don't try to tell me restricting agency over someone's body is the same as restricting access to firearms.
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Those are actually both “restricting agency over someone’s body” as it relates to personal choices people make. But what things with an active market can you name that have ever been *effectively* banned in this country?
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DDT and other persistent organic pollutants, for one. There are others. And no, guns are not part of someone's body. A uterus is.
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The market for those things simply shifted to other insecticides. It’s like saying, with guns, “We successfully banned Glocks.” You can ban that brand, but only because there are other options. Self-defense *is* a human right, just as with choosing what to do with your own body.
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People are not buying semi-auto weapons of war for self-defense. And yes, the POP ban did work. We don't use those now. Hence why I call for banning specific weapons, not all of them. It's still false to equate right to bodily autonomy with the desire to own weapons of war.
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Jess, you lose the entire pro-gun community when you classify weapons as “weapons of war” that clearly aren’t. The AR-15 and the Mini-14 are *exactly* the same weapon in every way except aesthetics. An “assault weapons ban” only bans one. Both *are* good for self-defense, too.pic.twitter.com/XKLowxWD3g
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I've never pitched an assault weapons ban. I want to ban centerfire semi-auto rifles. I want to limit magazine capacities. I want universal background checks. I want a 14-day waiting period. Please don't equate my right to reproductive care with the right to buy unlimited guns.
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So, you want to ban rifles of a type that there are likely 100 million of them in current circulation? And you really think that’ll prevent mass shootings? I’m with you on background checks. But waiting periods are a presumption of guilt & don’t work. http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2015/apr/27/van-wanggaard/no-evidence-waiting-period-handgun-purchases-reduc/ …
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There’s so much we could fix in this country if we focused on facts and data instead of hypocritically polarizing people on one issue you’ll never win. Look at the NRA income and gun sales since Parkland. This isn’t a winning battle.
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