I believe people probably don't answer truthfully when surveyed about guns. My point is there is what you believe & what we know or can estimate. If polls are all we have, do we just toss results that don't conform to our beliefs. What evidence do you use to make judgements?
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Both countries have universal healthcare. Both countries have strong welfare programs to help those who are underprivileged. Both countries lack things like heavy drug sentencing for possession. They both have a much smaller wealth/wage gap than we do, too. (It's getting worse.)
Simply put, they don't have gun homicides like we do because they have much better socioeconomic equality than we do. The poor aren't too poor, and the rich aren't too rich.
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As things continue to divide there in terms of wealth inequality, my bet is gun crime/homicide rises regardless of gun-ownership levels. It may have already started. I haven't looked. My numbers are from The Guardian in 2012. But that's the answer to that one. Socioeconomics.
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Here, in the US, in this regard, I already touched on our poverty level (20%, with threshold set much lower than in those countries), but add in the war on drugs and resulting social imbalance, lack of universal healthcare, and Reagan defunding our mental-health infrastructure...
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