1993 to current, down by half here. (There’s more to this. We’ll see if you figure it out.) Gun ownership has skyrocketed in that time. So, how has it dropped by half? France to England, same gun-homicide rate, but France has 5x the rate of gun ownership. Why?
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I offer this graph cautiously. In the time I had, I could not verify the source data. The data is reported to be from European countries in 2000 and the US in 2001, so it is more dated than the studies I referenced previously. Clearly lots of variation, but a pattern nonetheless.pic.twitter.com/Xq610vwKal
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There isn’t truly reliable data on households with firearms. Gun owners tend to lie when surveyed out of paranoia that their guns will be taken.
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I believe people probably don't answer truthfully when surveyed about guns. My point is there is what you believe & what we know or can estimate. If polls are all we have, do we just toss results that don't conform to our beliefs. What evidence do you use to make judgements?
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You just have to consider that they lie. Weigh the data accordingly. You said you’re a data guy, why do I have to tell you this?
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Craziest thing is, now that you’re confronted with that point (probably for the first time), think back to your assertion about “convince gun owners to turn in their guns” trope you spun earlier. Seems pretty dumb now, no?
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So, do you want the actual answers to those questions? Because I have them.
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Just let me know when you want the answers.
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Anytime you want to offer your answers, I am listening.
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Ok. This will take a few posts. I’ll let you know when I’m done. First, France/England: They’re very similar countries whose histories are intertwined. Consider, for example, that Brits don’t flip people off, but rather hold up two fingers...
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When the French would capture a British archer, they’d cut off his index and middle fingers then send him home. He couldn’t fire arrows anymore. They hold up two fingers to show they’re still a threat. Nothing to do with this. Just an interesting story.
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England and France both have about the same level of poverty (approx 14%). The poverty line is set at 60% of the median income in both countries. Here, for example, it’s set at about 40%. So their poor are less poor, and there are less *of* them.
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Both countries have universal healthcare. Both countries have strong welfare programs to help those who are underprivileged. Both countries lack things like heavy drug sentencing for possession. They both have a much smaller wealth/wage gap than we do, too. (It's getting worse.)
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