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Medicare only covers 80% of medical bills and has almost no price controls for pharmaceuticals. Medicare is better than what we have, but not nearly good enough. It's telling that you don't know this stuff.

Price controls?! They are now forbidden from negotiating lower prices. Thank you bought Congress. The VA gets way lower prices because they arent forbidden. How about we just correct this as opposed to siding with more profiteering?

Nobody is siding with profiteering. Most of Western Europe does NOT utilize single-payer, but ALL of Western Europe has everybody covered (i.e. "Universal") for around 12% of GDP or less. As I said in my first post about this, single-payer *might* be the answer.

I understand that. I am just clarifying the reason our drug prices are high. I would be happy with any form of universal care over what we do now. Med for All is more workable since we have mechanisms already in place.

Right. But it's not good enough. Compromising on moral or ethical issues is itself a moral problem. Healthcare is a right. Denying rights because of income is wrong. We need to do this right, because if we do, it'll work. And if it works, it will last.

Listen to yourself, Steve. You're saying we should completely scrap our entire healthcare system and not utilize the infrastructure we have in place to ensure everyone can be covered for their basic needs with a reduction of hundreds of $ billions per year in cost.

If that's what it takes to get it right, then that's what it takes. I'm not saying that's what it *will* take. I'm saying we need to do it right.