You're kidding, right? Pick up a history text. ANY history text. Name ONE example of a Utopian society where violence wasn't involved.
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W odpowiedzi do @Midnitelouie @ideasurge
I'm saying if we get our key socioeconomic levels to equal Western Europe's, our homicide rates would closely mirror theirs.
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W odpowiedzi do @RealSteveCox @ideasurge
And I'm stating that without removing the access? You're still going to see roughly the same amount as current.
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W odpowiedzi do @Midnitelouie @ideasurge
Then how do you explain the drop (by half) in homicide rate since 1993 despite an increase in ownership now expanding to 100M owners?
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W odpowiedzi do @RealSteveCox @ideasurge
I assume you're talking Pew report. Great drop between '93-'97 and then stagnant. So, that's a misleading statistic in and of itself.pic.twitter.com/bBbJ1m0ZvP
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W odpowiedzi do @Midnitelouie @ideasurge
No, it's not, because there are now 100M gun owners, so why didn't the numbers go up with gun ownership?
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W odpowiedzi do @RealSteveCox @ideasurge
And yet...there's less households with guns... Weird.pic.twitter.com/H6Vh8uoTPw
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W odpowiedzi do @Midnitelouie @ideasurge
That statistic is incorrect. Gun owners tend to lie about whether they have guns. If you track real data, it's gone way up.
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W odpowiedzi do @RealSteveCox @ideasurge
OK, look. We can go round and round all day. I believe that both have to occur. However, the more priority/immediate solution is removal.
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W odpowiedzi do @Midnitelouie @ideasurge
In order for that to be an immediate solution, you'd need to be able to pass the law, and you'd have to know where all 300-600M guns are 1/2
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Most firearms aren't registered in any way. And there are hundreds of millions of them. Thinking you can "remove them" is magical thinking.
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