It appears Valve has put forward some steps to correct this! :Dpic.twitter.com/taO5HSAQcO
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Hey @GreyAlien - Are your games seeing an abnormally high amount of wishlist deletions? I and 4 other devs all are seeing some pretty strange stats. I've never once in 5 years seen more deletes than adds/P&A during a seasonal sale. I've always left a sale with a net increase.pic.twitter.com/v1OY4MUQW5
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I'm getting 4x the wishlist deletions compared to sales.
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Wishlist decrease has outstripped sales through most of 2019 for me, but not at this rate.pic.twitter.com/0K0aTlZ1ej
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Hi David, I think this may be because of Steam's new 'Grand Prix' minigame which gives users the chance at winning a free game on their Wishlist. This is making players remove less expensive titles in favor of higher cost AAA titles.
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I'd been wondering about this for the last 24 hours or so, hadn't realized this was causing it. I've poked Valve about it, hopefully they can reword the promo to stop their users doing this
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Thanks Mike. Here's one of my games. But like I said before, maybe those customers wouldn't have ever bought anyway. Couple this with the fact that valve no longer sends out wishlist notifications to 100% of wishlisters anyway (like about 20%-25%) and it's er not great.pic.twitter.com/O53vvZnIxE
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I've been getting 100% wishlist notifications (give or take 10% or so) up until this sale, so I'm hoping the 25% (in my case, closer to 15%) is just a this-sale thing, just from so many products being on sale they can only send so many emails out before people get annoyed.pic.twitter.com/xJ1HEcfaLA
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Weirdly, two of those data points are higher than my total wishlist count (155k). No idea why, or how that's possible. But I'll take it.
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Wow yeah same. People clean out their wishlists at the start of sale. Is it encouraged by the Valve metagame this time somehow?
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I always see higher deletes in day 1 and 2 of a seasonal sale, but Adds/P&A overtake deletes on the graph anyway. But, digging through the event, there is this one. It might be indirectly causing people to clean up their wishlist willist picking their "top game".pic.twitter.com/CCKpeMF3r1
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Far as I can tell there's nothing anywhere on Steam encouraging them to delete/clean up anything, but it's possible simply encouraging them just to *look* at the list is resulting in a lot of people "cleaning house".
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It appears Valve has put forward steps to correct this! :Dpic.twitter.com/mGyFdqXxG1
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I guess it's because of the event in steam cuz even without seing the comments here I entered my wishlist and cleaned 60+ % of my games from there.
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Wishlist cleaning is pretty normal during sales, I always see a pretty big spike of deletes at the start of the Summer and Winter sales. But it has never overtaken P&A and Adds. Here's 2017 and 2018 for example;pic.twitter.com/RzAf7ABw1O
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Still I strongly believe you will succeed as game developer :)
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Thanks. I'm still trying and have several things planned.
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Looking at my own stats, wishlist deletions are about 50% higher than purchases which isn't too bad. When you take into account new wishlists, the difference is only about 10-15%. Special sale promotions aside, I imagine a lot of people prune their lists during sales.
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That's certainly possible, but the wishlist data on games I've worked on doesn't look particularly unusual this sale to me.
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