It pains me to say this, but I found @ContraPoints latest video profoundly hurtful.
I'm pre-emptively exhausted by all the knuckleheads who I'm sure will tell me I am not entitled to that pain, but still.
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This video was essentially me watching someone who I respected validate all the terrible things I think inside my head. The only challenge presented by someone dressed in the iconagraphy of my beliefs, who is presented as naive and unrealistic.
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I'm old enough and secure enough in myself to see through the truscum horseshit presented neutrally in this video. If I had watched it when I was younger I would have been absolutely devastated. I would never have been comfortable with who I am.
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I'm sure a lot of people, probably natalie herself, would argue that neither of the characters is presented as fully right. But in the absence of that editorial focus, the character telling gender non conforming people to stop existing wins the argument handily.
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I kept waiting for the turn, when the other shoe would drop and the video would reverse the reactionary position and explain why it is a problem. That moment never came.
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Ultimately the message that lands on the viewer is that gender non conforming people are a nuisance to binary trans people. That our freedom to express ourselves somehow inhibits theirs, and we should of course acquiesce to their interests. Because they're "real".
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So just smile and laugh and be sweet and polite. I'm sure if you do that Ben Shapiro won't misrepresent you. Be one of the good ones.
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Replying to @ThoughtSlime
I'm really sorry that it had that impact on you. I agree that it really felt like there were some good points in there, but it felt unfocused & unfinished to me
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Replying to @RationalDis @ThoughtSlime
I got the impression that it’s an unfinished inner dialogue, representing things Natalie thinks or has thought at the same time. Some unresolved contradictions. “Justine” gets to frame the discussion, which gives her a rhetorical upper hand. I can see that being very frustrating.
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Idk I feel like "Justine" had the better points, not because they were actually better, but because there was basically an absence of counter arguments... :\
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Replying to @RationalDis @RightRevJake
This is my feeling as well. I agree with Tabby, but the way the arguments are presented she loses.
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Replying to @ThoughtSlime @RightRevJake
Based on the ending "I guess you just can't win" line I think Natalie's point is that they are both kinda right & wrong & are both fucked by the current systems. But she never presents a valid synthesis of the two. She kinda just washes her hands of it...
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