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    1. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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      Okay, so @Timcast recently made a video about my video getting flagged & re-uploaded by other people. I'm not sure if there is enough here to do a full response video or anything, so, for now, it will just be this thread. [It's a long one]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOcuDJajJ18 …

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    2. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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      First off I want to point out that I think Tim makes some good points in his video & brings up important questions. He was also much kinder in his criticisms & approach than he needed to be, which appreciate. 👍

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    3. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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      I do find it a little strange that Tim came across yet another example of Anti-Alt-Right videos being struck down(see) @ContraPoints @shaun_jen @4lternate_facts @_ThreeArrows etc by flagging groups that we know exist on /pol/ & Discord who will mass flag videos with sock accounts

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    4. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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      But he decided to sidestep that aspect of the story & went with "YouTuber with 5,000 subs might be a hypocrite." instead. I hope he will cover how the alt-right abuses & games systems to silence people in the future. https://twitter.com/4lternate_facts/status/959868179555278849 …https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=583X6DGjits …

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    5. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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      Tim & I agree that YouTube has the right to censor anything they want to & I hope that we agree that they should do it to some extent i.e. terrorist recruitment, child porn, calls to kill or assault people etc. What we seem to disagree on is where exactly that line should be.

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    6. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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      This isn't a simple question with simple answers, there might not even be a good answer. The main point of my Free Speech video(link) was to demonstrate that the Liberal idea of the Free Market Place of Ideas is flawed & has inherent dangers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWUbUeDp1SU …pic.twitter.com/hRVmejrrhA

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    7. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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      He's right that I was wrong when I said "What about when the those in power decide to ban your speech?" is a Slippery Slope Fallacy, it isn't, & I even contradict myself because I then point out that the SS is a valid concern, thus it is not a fallacy. This was sloppy writing.

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      Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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      I then go onto use the example of people arguing for "peaceful ethnic cleansing" as something that should be censored. So clearly in that context, I am talking about radical violent beliefs that are thinly veiled & rely on propaganda when I say "Ideas that cause harm.".

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        2. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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          Even given that example I still acknowledge that figuring out what falls into that category isn't always simple & I say that: "...a conversation over where those lines should be drawn is a more beneficial conversation..."

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        3. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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          So I think some of this comes down to the fact that my videos from last year were not the as well written or as clear as they should have been.

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        4. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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          Tim brings up that I "Had the time to write a long response to him." I did, because I took my lunch break early so I could write that response to ensure that I had a say because I wasn't given any actual time frame. You can see how long it took me to write that first response.pic.twitter.com/FaF6TBjpL9

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        5. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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          He also says that I "...didn't answer, but instead argued that..." You can see that his 2nd question & my post are within the same minute. That's because my 2nd post was not a response to his, it was a follow up to my long answer.pic.twitter.com/ByBZV9nuYg

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        6. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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          I was in the middle of writing it when he asked the follow-up question. So I think it's a bit dishonest to imply that it was me trying to dodge a question. Maybe that wasn't his intent, but that what it looks like to me.

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        7. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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          He then claims that I didn't answer his original question in my 1st response. But I clearly said at the end of my post that if YouTube didn't have a poor track record of enforcement & communication & made it clear that my video debunking alt-right propaganda was not acceptable-

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        8. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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          - but alt-right propaganda videos were, I would argue that those are a very strange & bad set of principles, but I wouldn't be okay with people bypassing their Limited State.pic.twitter.com/gZrCWruvtj

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        9. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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          I would argue against what YouTube counts as being inappropriate & deserving of censorship, not that YouTube shouldn't censor some things I can say that I think a system should exist & still criticize it if I think it functions poorly or is being exploited & not contradict myself

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        10. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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          If Tim agrees that some things i.e. terrorist execution videos or calls to violence, should be censored, wouldn't he fall into the same supposed dilemma that he claims I am in if one of his videos is flagged? We would just disagree on where the line should be drawn.

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        11. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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          Finally, there is his argument "If the far right videos have more views wouldn't it make sense that the left mass flags them as well"

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        12. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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          I don't know of any Leftist groups that target & mass flag videos. As pointed out already, we know that these exist on the far right.

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        13. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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          I would argue that if propaganda videos are allowed by YouTube, but videos debunking them are not, then that is an example of the system not working or being applied unevenly, which Tim even agrees with at the end of his video. But that doesn't mean a system should exist at all.

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        14. Rational Disconnect‏ @RationalDis 21 Jul 2018
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          Okay, that was REALLY long, if you made it this far; thanks for reading all of that & please watch Tim's video. here is a posh puppy as a reward, you deserve it.pic.twitter.com/tpiPyzrGnU

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