Not only does this kind of post just hurt the feelings of random white people, it helps to feed the narrative that being left wing is inherently anti-white and anti-male. No, I don't think anti whiteness is some huge problem that's ruining people's lives. I do think that the
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alt right LOVES when our side posts shit like this because it's yet another tool for their propaganda machine. The more likes and RTs these kinds of posts, the better it is for them to point to to say 'the left hates white people'. There's a growing perception that society
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is becoming anti-white. They will say things like 'but if you said this about a black person it would be racist' and as much as I think those have different power to them, there's a point there. How are we supposed to convince these people that generalising all non white
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people is wrong if we look like hypocrites by calling white men mediocre? I don't really care if someone on the internet calls white people mediocre for my own feelings. I just care because this kind of thing is what gets shared around far right circles as 'evidence'.
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Oh, something I forgot. I am not a fan of when men post things like 'We suck UwU' it just helps this stereotype that being a male feminist means you have to self flagellate and constantly apologise for being a man. That shit won't get people on board.
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it is one of the reasons a lot of people say they became alt right. they have a victim complex because its trendy to shit on white people & for white people to be like “i hate myself LOL!” i personally just think its cringe. not something to become an extremist over
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Yeah I don't think it's a good reason to go full fashy, but I know the fashies use this to push a conspiracy theory that white people are being taught to hate themselves by the Jews and shit.
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to be fair everything is the jews to them everything
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EVERYTHING IS JEWISH, EVERYTHING IS MARXIST AND WE HAVE TO POINT IT ALL OUT
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but marx hated the jews wtf the alt-right is marxist now!!! we win!
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Nazbols are a thing haha I find that funny that the modern alt right conflate marxism and progressivism when marx himself was a racist and I think he was homophobic too right?
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Good thread ,I suspect that these people don't ACTUALLY hate "white" people (or at least I hope) but whatever subtext/inner meaning is something that everyone outside their circle, will not get..
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Yeah they don't hate white people I am sure. This is either a) venting or b) some inner circle kind of ranting that no one outside it will get. Like I get that people who say this shit often don't literally hate white people but it won't look that way to the outside.
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I'd like to get some general thoughts on this sort of thing from people since I know being white, it's easy for me to look at this in terms of strategy and tactics because I never really need to vent about racism from white people. Still, just... maybe do it privately.
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Plus I mean... the person that posted this is white I'm pretty sure so... ??? Like if the people posting this shit are just really pissed off about racism (which is fair enough) and want to say some mean shit about white people, I don't have a problem with it generally.
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Just them doing it so publicly helps this idea of the left as anti white. I get that sometimes POC do just kinda want to vent in ways that aren't very nice but it's probably better to do that where there are people who get that that's what they're doing.
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Well yeah I look at it like an inside joke, you tell an inside joke to someone who aint in the circle they are gonna think "wtf, I don't get it". It just seems like the type of think you'd post in like a feminist forum or DM one of your feminst mates or something.
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Yeah that's basically how I see it. Like I knew of some groups on facebook that were just for black people who wanted to talk about shit and because they were in activism, it was a safe place to just vent about shit with other black activists. I think it's more suitable there.
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Just because among other black activists they will all kinda get what you mean and you won't need to explain over and over again 'Not all white people' but on twitter you'll get a lot of flack for it.
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Honestly was a huge stumbling block for me when I was a white male in my early 20s that just had vaguely "liberal" views. Came onto twitter seeing people I'd otherwise agree with going off about white men. I learned to read between the lines, but at the time felt attacked.
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Yeah and I think that's kind of the problem. As much as it's good for people to realise that shit like this often isn't about them, I don't think it's reasonable to expect people to just KNOW that magically. I think this is just going to push people away.
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I was a bit hesitant to talk about this because I don't want this to just be dismissed as 'hurr lol white feelings' 'white chick crying over people calling her mediocre'. Seriously, I don't give a shit about this beyond the terrible optics of it really.
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Why can’t we all just worry about decriminalizing weed and abolishing asset forfeiture?
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