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    Rachel Tobac‏Verified account @RachelTobac 6 May 2021

    Huge heads up on PayPal Twitter Tip Jar. If you send a person a tip using PayPal, when the receiver opens up the receipt from the tip you sent, they get your *address*. Just tested to confirm by tipping @yashar on Twitter w/ PayPal and he did in fact get my address I tipped him. https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/1390396738788339722 …pic.twitter.com/r8UyJpNCxu

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      2. Rachel Tobac‏Verified account @RachelTobac 6 May 2021

        Above you can see the receipt @yashar sent me when I did this test with him. Be careful using PayPal Twitter Tip Jar — this is a hallmark of PayPal rather than Twitter of course but it impacts Twitter users who may not know that their address is leaked by PayPal to tip receivers.

        33 replies . 974 retweets 4,494 likes
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      3. Rachel Tobac‏Verified account @RachelTobac 6 May 2021

        Rachel Tobac Retweeted Rachel Tobac

        This is EXACTLY what I was concerned to test when Twitter announced Tip Jar. PayPal needs to make it crystal clear which data is given to money receivers and stop sharing that data, & Twitter needs to educate users who don’t realize what info tip receivers get when using PayPal.https://twitter.com/RachelTobac/status/1385398131924209665 …

        Rachel Tobac added,

        Rachel TobacVerified account @RachelTobac
        Questions I’m interested to learn more about: - how will payment account details be shown to twitter tippers - will tippers be able to see payment tool details like Venmo username - when tipping via PayPal, will PayPal disclose personal tip receiver’s email in receipt to tipper
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        17 replies . 942 retweets 4,206 likes
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      4. Rachel Tobac‏Verified account @RachelTobac 6 May 2021

        Thank you @yashar for letting me test with you to ensure I can educate folks on how PayPal leaks address data to tip receivers and so we can keep people safe ❤️❤️

        16 replies . 171 retweets 2,152 likes
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      5. Rachel Tobac‏Verified account @RachelTobac 6 May 2021

        Rachel Tobac Retweeted Rachel Tobac

        Thank you @Twitter @kayvz for paying attention, welcoming security researcher’s feedback, and taking responsibility to take steps to warn and protect your users within an hour of me releasing these findings (even though you don’t control PayPal’s address leaking flow).https://twitter.com/RachelTobac/status/1390424864469651460 …

        Rachel Tobac added,

        Rachel TobacVerified account @RachelTobac
        Thank you @kayvz for taking this issue seriously to protect your users. I hope 2 things happen: 1. Twitter warns users that using PayPal on Twitter Tip Jar to tip can reveal their address to the tip receiver 2. PayPal should stop sending address data to money receivers https://twitter.com/kayvz/status/1390423761183117312 …
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        7 replies . 183 retweets 1,345 likes
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      6. Rachel Tobac‏Verified account @RachelTobac 6 May 2021

        Yes, this is a PayPal issue (leaks address w/ PayPal payments off of Twitter too). Twitter integrated PayPal into their tip feature so it's now Twitter's responsibility to inform users about how using PayPal w/ Twitter Tip Jar impacts privacy as many Twitter users aren't aware.

        17 replies . 257 retweets 1,417 likes
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      7. Rachel Tobac‏Verified account @RachelTobac 6 May 2021

        This is a great opportunity for orgs to start a conversation on privacy implications of features they build & tools they integrate into their platform. When an org integrates a tool that could affect user's privacy & users might not understand privacy risk, orgs should educate.

        6 replies . 110 retweets 884 likes
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      8. Rachel Tobac‏Verified account @RachelTobac 6 May 2021

        Rachel Tobac Retweeted Twitter Support

        Thank you for taking action today Twitter. You didn’t create the PayPal address leak issue but you’re taking responsibility for your user’s privacy with your PayPal integration by warning them about how their personal info could be revealed when tipping w/ PayPal Twitter Tip Jar.https://twitter.com/TwitterSupport/status/1390451333602422787 …

        Rachel Tobac added,

        Twitter SupportVerified account @TwitterSupport
        We’re updating our tipping prompt and Help Center to make it clearer that other apps may share info between people sending/receiving tips, per their terms.
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        16 replies . 167 retweets 1,030 likes
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      9. Rachel Tobac‏Verified account @RachelTobac 8 May 2021

        Rachel Tobac Retweeted Rachel Tobac

        The flow that revealed my physical address here was the default flow served to me during this tip interaction. To keep people safe, we need *privacy by default* — make it hard to accidentally share your physical address in this flow rather than the default shown to some users.https://twitter.com/RachelTobac/status/1390772180800053248 …

        Rachel Tobac added,

        Rachel TobacVerified account @RachelTobac
        The goal with security and privacy harm prevention is to make steps in a flow safe by default. Folks say "just turn off PayPal physical address reveal by clicking arrow & selecting this & then check a box". Imagine now if seatbelts required 2 more steps before keeping you safe.
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        4 replies . 13 retweets 149 likes
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      10. Rachel Tobac‏Verified account @RachelTobac 23 Sep 2021

        Rachel Tobac Retweeted Rachel Tobac

        An update to the Twitter Tip Jar messaging here. Our feedback has been heard.https://twitter.com/RachelTobac/status/1441092714846556165 …

        Rachel Tobac added,

        Rachel TobacVerified account @RachelTobac
        Closing the loop — Twitter team listened to our feedback about Tip Jar concerns where users accidentally share private info with Tip receivers. Twitter added a more specific warning about private details that may be shared by 3rd party tools when using the Tip Jar feature. https://twitter.com/RachelTobac/status/1390409874006183936 … pic.twitter.com/dH7NF12ahC
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        2 replies . 4 retweets 17 likes
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      11. Rachel Tobac‏Verified account @RachelTobac Mar 10

        Another update: no longer seeing PayPal as an option for Twitter Tip Jar.

        0 replies . 1 retweet 5 likes
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