Its not about ‘picking an era’ this is stupid idea, not how you go about things. One must learn all of history, and enlightement should be studied not as arbitrary affectation, but to understand how modernity was created and what its flaws/errors are
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also there in an inner drive in philosophy: to study Enlightenment takes you back to Bacon and Descartes, to Machiavelli and Erasmus, to Polybius and Seneca
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All knowledge is connected, even BAP’s views here on antiquity inescapably shaped by enlightenment.
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no this is false!
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unmediated view of antiquity is hard just reading bare text with no study of meaning (of words, of puzzles, of logic) means kwa kid will spatter ancients with zogpoison from his own brain but if you study meaning, who is your teacher?
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Even post-modernism really begins in struggle with the interpretative and philological challenges of getting at authentic core of antique texts. Getting at the ‘real antiquity’ is noble aim, but much easier said than done.
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Hard to know what it means to engage with antiquity apart from Montesquieu or Gibbon. The very idea of history itself is modern creation of enlightenment that affects and orients our perspective whether we admit it or like it
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There are two complementary threads: one is how to read and understand the texts, the other is their ultimate meaning and relevance
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To some extent you can read and evaluate using 20th c scholarship, ignore Enlightenment (but Voltaire, etc still very important for stupid views - like most ancient texts spurious or medieval fakes - and as source of still-popular misconceptions)
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I think even then one is seeing through enlightenment advances in historiography, anthropology, philology, if only in second hand way. Question is how to break free and see past that completely, which is a hermeneutical challenge without an easy solution
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right agreed - eg Sorabji’s recovery of Peripatetic commentaries preserved only in Armenian impossible w/o previous generations of philology But that is diff from ultimate relevance q, where the current alternatives are themselves outcome of Enl debates (Hume, Montq etc)
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