Followup thoughts on this topic. 1/Mocking weirdo fatty sex-cults is all well and good, but we have fatties in our own lives we want to help https://twitter.com/menaquinone4/status/802609594417618944 …
6/There are more things you can say on motivational front (value of strong core for reading, rhetorical value of being a 9)
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7/Let's transition to another vector: get them out of frame of mind of not-being-a-fatty. That's v hard to measure, bias easy
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8/Initial step is to get them to think about measurements instead of goals. I.e. can't convince them xyz is a bad weight, but
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9/... you can convince them that NOT RECORDING xyz every morning is deeply irrational. If they won't do it, why not?
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10/They say they don't need to WORK at LOSING weight cuz xyz is a fine weight (vs sacrifice) so why is recording it aversive?
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11/Same for taking physique pics. (Never mind poasting...) Same for recording exactly what they eat, down to the breath mint.
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12/If current body habitus a good choice, then gathering data on it is very easy and very useful. If it hurts, it's necessary
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13/Don't nag them about physique goals, tho (other than gathering data). Talk to them about physical performance benchmarks.
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14/"Weight" may be too daunting for the lip-rationalist. Let's talk about cardiovascular endurance. How long can he run?
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15/If he can't do 1 mile (or equiv at incline) on treadmill in 10 min he's destroying his body. That's a non-threatening goal
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16/Likewise "skeletal muscle%" may be daunting. Talk about what he can lift instead. If he can't do a few bodyweight pushups
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17/...then he's gonna throw out his back moving out of his apartment or something. Not rational! Work on his lifts
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18/"They" say looksmax for pussy;
#woke view, perfect body to perfect mind; ...both VERY hard for lipo-rationalist to accept! -
19/They imply terrible life choices. Fuels past regret, future anxiety. Not smart to index progress-evaluation to these!
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20/Better to convince a friend of importance of something linked to physique but LESS important: endurance/stamina/strength.
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21/(Even better if you hook him on a sport & he starts to autistically grind) He makes progress on these, & loses weight too.
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22/If I don't officially end the thread I'll keep coming back with increasingly trivial observations, so: /thread
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