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    1. tantum‏ @QuasLacrimas Oct 16

      tantum Retweeted Lyman Stone

      This strongly suggests that the effect is causally mediated through paternal genes (low-SES moms get low-SES dads anyway, but children of high-SES moms mean-revert further if father is chosen randomly)https://twitter.com/lymanstoneky/status/1052081538962051072 …

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      Lyman Stone @lymanstoneky
      Interestingly, the effects of single motherhood are *most severe* for *rich* moms! In other words, this really truly is not about material deprivation! It's about something else! #NBERday
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    2. Jesse Abraham Lucas‏ @JesseLucasSaga Oct 16
      Replying to @QuasLacrimas

      Jesse Abraham Lucas Retweeted Lyman Stone

      I disagree with his conclusion though https://twitter.com/lymanstoneky/status/1052082295539097600 … Marriage/community are social techs developed to alleviate bad-father effects; across a population, where marriage is more common social ills associated with single motherhood are less

      Jesse Abraham Lucas added,

      Lyman Stone @lymanstoneky
      ***IN OTHER WORDS*** The causal effect of "single motherhood" on worse child outcomes ***might*** actually be causal effects of bad-fatherhood. Pressuring people to get married won't fix that. #NBERday
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      tantum‏ @QuasLacrimas Oct 16
      Replying to @JesseLucasSaga

      That's sound although I do think we need to be serious about asking: what evidence would we accept that intact family *doesn't* matter?

      6:01 AM - 16 Oct 2018
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        2. Jesse Abraham Lucas‏ @JesseLucasSaga Oct 16
          Replying to @QuasLacrimas

          And what happened to the neighborhoods in the 20th century could have been something like mutation load? Interesting thought. I'd say a population where intact families don't outperform non-intact ones. Lots of confounds though.

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        3. tantum‏ @QuasLacrimas Oct 16
          Replying to @JesseLucasSaga

          I think the idea of separating it from economic effects is also misguided; the q. they mean to ask is "Well could we solve it with transfer payments?" but those create their own problems

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        4. tantum‏ @QuasLacrimas Oct 16
          Replying to @QuasLacrimas @JesseLucasSaga

          It could well be the case that *all* the problems intact families solve are *exclusively* economic (at least, at the first order) and still be the case that they are the unique solution

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        5. Jesse Abraham Lucas‏ @JesseLucasSaga Oct 16
          Replying to @QuasLacrimas

          It's also simplistic to imagine that separation implies all these bad traits in fathers. At the very least bad mother genes could be causing trouble too; we don't know if those bad dads are successes elsewhere.

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        6. tantum‏ @QuasLacrimas Oct 16
          Replying to @JesseLucasSaga

          no, read the thread; that is specifically excluded because they have sororal controls

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        7. Jesse Abraham Lucas‏ @JesseLucasSaga Oct 16
          Replying to @QuasLacrimas

          ah, right

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        8. Spotted Toad‏ @toad_spotted Oct 16
          Replying to @JesseLucasSaga @QuasLacrimas

          Also, externalities created by other married parents in the neighborhood/school peer environment shouldn't be excluded from the consideration of causal impacts of marriage. My guess is in aggregate, especially due to shrinking family size, they are the main mechanism of impact.

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        9. tantum‏ @QuasLacrimas Oct 16
          Replying to @toad_spotted @JesseLucasSaga

          Right. Even in nice '50s suburbs with intact families, the kids with shitty parents attached themselves to the more stable families. I imagine that goes all the way down... basically leeching stability

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