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· Jul 31

Replying to @lisatomic5

i can't speak for anyone else but for me insofar as "autist gf" has any appeal as a fantasy it's that i assume neurotypical women have a billion defenses up against men all the time and autist women will have less of those which will make it a lot easier for me to relax

and maybe this is triggering for you, because you have a core need to be "loved perfectly and unconditionally"-- basically a need for "motherly love" (I don't remember exactly what tweets this perception was based on, smth with your mom and/or what you needed from a gf)--

though maybe you're mistaken about what that kind of love entails? and can see any evidence of "perception of my character flaws" as evidence that someone "couldn't truly love you" --> "you'll never be loved" (whereas motherly love is love *given while fully aware of flaws*)

this is exactly what I was referring to in this tweet-- not that you "don't want to harm women" but that you're upset by "being perceived as even possibly bad", or "not being perceived as purely, flawlessly good"

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· May 30

I have a suspicion that a lot of men who are "worried about hurting women" (somehow, e.g. through sexual advances or w/e) are actually more worried about being seen as "the sort of guy who hurts women"

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NEEDING that validation from women-- and specifically how you'd react when she sets a healthy boundary and you suddenly feel like you might never get the sort of love you believe you need-- is what would make you "unsafe" anyway

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· May 30

and then my expectation would be that the men who say this a lot will likely be very needy (for validation from women) since they "fear being bad" in some way, they really *need* others to constantly reinforce the idea that they aren't bad--

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already here you describe women as "assuming you're a rapist" (maybe this is not a current/endorsed view?)-- but this seems like a bad faith view, given that they clearly have to make decisions given low information, high maximum risk, unclear benefits, uncertain probabilities

I get that this is all in-process emotional stuff, and can see how people each internalize/integrate bits of broader culture differently and in uniquely harmful ways etc-- but pls do consider how it might be both true and *not about you* that "women are rational not to trust you"

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this was frustrating to read, you’re taking stuff i talked about in some cases literally years ago and assuming i haven’t made any progress on them since

19h

like, you are describing a real dynamic that people definitely fall into, that i have been more susceptible to in the past, but that i think i’ve cleaned up maybe 80% and am now hunting around for the remaining 20% and this was part of that process

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this bit in particular is almost right but slightly off in an immensely frustrating way. it’s not about being perceived as bad. it’s about whether i am *damned*. i’m not kidding about the *religious* aspect of this

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· Aug 1

Replying to @lisatomic5 and @QiaochuYuan

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i’m still incredibly frustrated about this

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the religious part here is fascinating to me bc as far as i remember you didn't grow up religious? (all of this is v relatable but we talked abt this before)

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and i think my neurosis around this is not concerned about damnation, just "hurting" women