Most interesting thing I learned about myself in the last decade (thanks to that one post by the Facebook guy): I have aphantasia, which explains like 90% of my thinking.
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I try to think about this sometimes but very quickly lose track with what I am or am not doing under the banner of “visualization” I mean it’s not literally like seeing of course and then train of thought loses the plot
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Most people can literally visualize
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I mean but it can’t be JUST like seeing , that’s why it’s the “minds eye”
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Ugh here I go again
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Yep, apparently it pretty much is
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Do you mean to tell me that most people can literally have at will the brain state that is otherwise produced involuntarily by seeing (presumably) real objects out in the world ?
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timestamp!
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I still can literally hardly belive this 🤯🤯🤯
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wait i don't believe this is what people mean when they say they can visualize. i think there are two different visual spaces, the "actual" visual field and the "mind's eye," and visualization refers to the latter. i think i ran a poll about this
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some people claim to be able to superimpose arbitrary images onto the "actual" visual field but afaict this is a much rarer ability
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can't find a poll but short discussion here
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there are (at least) two different “spaces” at play i think. psychedelic visuals are happening in my “actual visual field.” the rest of the time when i say i’m visualizing something it’s in my “mind’s eye.” like the diff between hallucinating vs. remembering a song twitter.com/_holyweather/s…
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it is one of these things where I can't tell if thinking harder about it makes it more or less clear so I just stop...
fundamentally, my hangup is:
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whatever happens in my own "mind's eye" seems importantly *non-visual* to me
it is *much* more like thinking about things than seeing them
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running a poll, can't believe i haven't done this yet
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poll: when you visualize images (e.g. recall a visual memory) do those images appear in your "actual" visual field (superimposed over your actual vision) or in your "mind's eye" (a separate space from your actual vision)?
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there's like tests for aphantasia and literature on it... your analysis seems like shitpost half-assery tbf :D
from how they describe it, I think normies can actually see fairly hi-fi reconstructed remembered scenes in visual field
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if it's that, I absolutely cannot do it, and on those scales with drawings of what you minds eye see I am like bottom fidelity or next to bottom every time
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