i don’t know what consciousness is and i don’t care
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🥺 do you care about other parts of physics / nature?
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sure, it just doesn’t particularly matter to me which parts are more or less conscious
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On its face, this position is genuinely baffling. Consciousness is arguable the thing that matters most, as its presence or absence almost exclusively drives our ethics and morality. If an AI is conscious, we probably shouldn’t torture it.
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I’m struggling to empathize with a view that’s essentially yes I care about physics just not the part that is the sole base of ethics and morality and feeling
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this is the part i think is deeply confused. i don't think consciousness has anything to do with the basis of ethics and morality and feeling
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do you think that any of the following have anything to do with the basis of ethics?
pain
suffering
desire
-maybe- consciousness doesn't have anything to do with those things, but it's an open question
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yeah sure. i'm not convinced consciousness has much to do with any of these things, except maybe suffering
does this change if you switch out consciousness for qualia? Eg studying the qualia of desire and it’s causes (tanha etc) and how to alleviate it
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the concept of qualia feels confused to me in the same way that consciousness does. i don't think you can know that anything in the universe experiences qualia except you so it doesn't make any sense to me to use whether *other things* experience qualia as a foundation for ethics
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Other than every single one of them and everything else in human experience takes place within consciousness? It isn't crazy to think maybe they have something to do with each other.