i don’t know what consciousness is and i don’t care
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🥺 do you care about other parts of physics / nature?
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sure, it just doesn’t particularly matter to me which parts are more or less conscious
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On its face, this position is genuinely baffling. Consciousness is arguable the thing that matters most, as its presence or absence almost exclusively drives our ethics and morality. If an AI is conscious, we probably shouldn’t torture it.
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I’m struggling to empathize with a view that’s essentially yes I care about physics just not the part that is the sole base of ethics and morality and feeling
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this is the part i think is deeply confused. i don't think consciousness has anything to do with the basis of ethics and morality and feeling
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I agree. Understanding & deconstructing self is not correlating with how to build up a wholesome loving self.
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Enlightenment (in the spiritual sense) is often understood as state of heightened wisdom and ethics. But enlightenment primarily affects how the individual self constitutes itself with respect to its experiences and motivation. It does not magically make you intelligent or wise.
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do you think that any of the following have anything to do with the basis of ethics?
pain
suffering
desire
-maybe- consciousness doesn't have anything to do with those things, but it's an open question
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yeah sure. i'm not convinced consciousness has much to do with any of these things, except maybe suffering
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yeah I also don't get it.
i'm interested in minds!
of all questions about minds, I'm not *that* interested in ones like "what defines the boundary between awake and asleep?" or "what defines the boundary between conscious and subconscious?"
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and "consciousness" itself as a topic...things get super ill-posed and i find ill-posed questions boring/dismal
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