there's a certain kind of "following the dao" philosophy i think i know a lot of people who hold implicitly in some form, which i think if taken sufficiently seriously suggests the bizarre conclusion that literally everything follows the dao automatically *except humans*
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like compared to the rest of the universe we're these alien eldritch entities invading the harmony of the dao, the only things capable of disharmony. it's a weird, depressing, and frankly confusing pov. how did our ability to disharmonize evolve? do any monkeys have it partially?
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if you keep poking at this story it just turns into original sin i think
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the alternative, which is bizarre in a different way, is that everything follows the dao automatically *including* humans, that all of the indignity and suffering and horror of modern industrial civilization and so forth is still somehow harmonious
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This is just two truths doctrine trouble, right?
Something like: you’re already always following the dao, but you can become confused about that, and if you get unconfused, problems are still problems, but it’s ok because you’re following the dao.
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I think there is a fundamental sin characterized by e.g. left hemisphere dominance, the forgetting of skillful coping, Christopher Alexander’s tragedy
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yeah so sometimes i kinda do too but like where did it come from????????????????????????
I DONT FUCKING KNOW
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This relates to a question I can't figure out:
What the HELL is dukkha and why does does it seem to be this other thing apart from ordinary reward/punishment functions? Why does it exist? Why would there be this spandrel that is also everything bad in the universe?
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Self consciousness and the consciousness of time somehow create the ability to trick ourselves out of feeling our feelings and apparently this creates the entire sense that anything is Not Ok?
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Also true that even after figuring it out, full implications not yet understood.
My candidate for an analogous idea today is “you’re literally just supposed to feel your feelings.”
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hmm kinda feels like there is a topological geometrical way of seeing it like the dao is what Christopher Alexander calls “the wholeness” which is a coherent manifold structure and somehow human neocortex found a way out of it almost like an exploit
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having to do with the capacity to create autonomous imaginary models and maps which become like a metaverse virtual reality where the properties of the wholeness are transcended
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The more you're made in the image of the divine the easier it is to (pretend) to block the light out
Man is naturally the most harmonious entity, made in the image of God. Therefore his disharmony and fall must also be greater. No healing without cancer.
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That is to say - mankind's sins are more notable because his light is brighter. He can support failure for longer periods of time. If a less grand system has a failure it just ends.
Brightest light casts the longest shadow. The Dao is beyond good and evil
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