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there’s something I’d like to name, or find an existing name for. I don’t want it to be condescending but it’s hard (and maybe wrong) for me to mask my genuine aversion to it it’s in the vicinity of approval-seeking, prestige-seeking… desire to past tests… follow rules…

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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)

@QiaochuYuan

Feb 8

kaczynski called something like this “oversocialization” i think? there’s some interesting stuff that comes up googling that keyword feels related to the stuff i’ve been noodling on about neuroticism

Elle Denisova

@edenisovan

Feb 8

yay another fan of uncle ted 😄 oversocialization is definitely a thing, and it's interesting how some people (myself and, i feel, many people around here) seem super oversocialized in some domains but kinda socialization-proof in others

QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)

@QiaochuYuan

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@visakanv

it do be like that sometimes huh 🧐 for myself i kinda chalk it up at least partly to being an immigrant. i always felt outside of a lot of american cultural stuff, like a lot of it never managed to get “all the way in” so to speak

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i'm sure that contributed for you, but i think anyone with a good instinct for reflecting on social dynamics is usually unsocialized in some way, otherwise they'd be too caught up in the phenomenon to see it

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People I've met seem to think whatever horrible movies they saw as a child are American culture, and are shocked and appalled if I haven't seen one of them and tell me that I should. I think anyone can do this, it's just an attitude, it doesn't matter what the movies actually are

helicopterosaur

@helicopterosaur

Feb 8

Connection to oversocialization is maybe: they're trying some kind of persuasion on me ("how have you not seen X? Everyone has seen it, you have to see it"). Who does this persuasion work on? Does it work on the people who use it?