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there’s something I’d like to name, or find an existing name for. I don’t want it to be condescending but it’s hard (and maybe wrong) for me to mask my genuine aversion to it it’s in the vicinity of approval-seeking, prestige-seeking… desire to past tests… follow rules…

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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)

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kaczynski called something like this “oversocialization” i think? there’s some interesting stuff that comes up googling that keyword feels related to the stuff i’ve been noodling on about neuroticism

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This might be useful: apexsnotes.substack.com/p/oversocializ cc

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apexsnotes.substack.com

Oversocialization: An Introduction

How Socialization Goes Awry and The Jekyll/Hyde Case of Credentials

Ooooh this reminds me I came up with this phrase once mid-conversation too. Digging in to see if we meant the same thing

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Visa

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@visakanv

· Jun 16, 2019

By “simultaneously undersocialized and oversocialized” I mean too much inheritance and not enough experimentation. Too much doing as you’re told and not enough figuring out what you want. Navigating with archaic graph models instead of making your own twitter.com/visakanv/statu

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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)

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i've started keeping a catalogue of examples here lol

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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)

@QiaochuYuan

· Jan 13

me and a lot of people i know sure do love ruining our own lives by making up rules about what we aren't allowed to do and then following them straight into a ditch

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I am loving the QC catalogues

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Erikson and Marcia used the term foreclosure in the context of identity formation, this may be an aspect of what you’re talking about, in combination with masking and gamification toward the scholar track.

verywellfamily.com

How Identity Foreclosure Helps Tweens and Teens Find Themselves

Identity foreclosure occurs when a person settles on a sense of self too soon. Learn what identity foreclosure means for children, tweens, and teens.

Meng Weng Wong

@mengwong

Feb 8

More about the scholar track: breakyourbond.blogspot.com/2012/11/once-b

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Elle Denisova

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yay another fan of uncle ted 😄 oversocialization is definitely a thing, and it's interesting how some people (myself and, i feel, many people around here) seem super oversocialized in some domains but kinda socialization-proof in others

QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)

@QiaochuYuan

Feb 8

it do be like that sometimes huh 🧐 for myself i kinda chalk it up at least partly to being an immigrant. i always felt outside of a lot of american cultural stuff, like a lot of it never managed to get “all the way in” so to speak

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yea that's what i was thinking too. he talks about this in technological slavery

Vivid Void

@VividVoid_

Feb 8

Gf just brought up a good point, it's often socially acceptable to talk about guillotines and billionaires, but mention that you might agree with some of what the Unabomber wrote and people are suddenly worried you'll get violent

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