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That it's possible for fear to be non-aversive doesn't seem to affect his central point, I think? Even if it's possible for it to be non-aversive (and I agree it is), for nearly all people there are contexts in which it isn't, and that's enough to drive motivated reasoning.
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the point i’m arguing against is scott’s claim that there are two kinds of learning and that reinforcement learning could be “mis-applied” - there’s just one kind of learning and it gets applied to internal states sometimes and that’s enough to drive motivated reasoning
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Hmm okay, I would likely word things a little differently from Scott, but the claim that the brain has one type of learning that's like RL and another that's more like prediction seems reasonable to me, even if they definitely get somewhat intertwined too
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If it helps I can keep responding to you with questions/comments so you keep going "oh I really should write that post" until it turns into "oh ffs *writes post* "