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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)
@QiaochuYuan
People use consent to mean (at least) two things: a tool, and the thing the tool is supposed to accomplish. I think we need different words for the two things, and suggest "consent" for the tool and "participation" for the thing it's for.
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nvpkp
@nvpkp
participation sounds to me like what people gesture at when they say "enthusiastic consent", sounds v similar also to play, presentness. i feel myself resisting this argumnet as a ~complete study of consent, but i won't go into that bc by now yr thoughts have probably changed?
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nvpkp
@nvpkp
and when i say complete i don't mean exhaustive, i mean the level of abstraction i think.
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)
@QiaochuYuan
oh this is nowhere near exhaustive but i'm not sure what you mean by "level of abstraction"? and yeah i have more thoughts and would phrase things differently now, maybe should do what visa suggested and write a blog post
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nvpkp
@nvpkp
i guess i start at this level and then shrink in to the interpersonal
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Replying to @ollyrobot
yeah i tend to think little of sovereignty where the fabric of social reality starts creeping in. responsibilities on that scale change, it’s not just about you anymore. if i catch your drift.
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nvpkp
@nvpkp
i guess "level of abstraction" doesn't describe that very well
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nvpkp
@nvpkp
but maybe that’s what i would write and not what you would write. so, go as inspired 🤗
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