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🙃 ɐʇǝɯ-Lulie 💜 (✈︎ SF)
@metaLulie
In addition to these good points, cognitive therapies just seem really bad for people with (C)PTSD type trauma
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Jonathan Shedler
@JonathanShedler
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1/ New study in JAMA compares two "evidence based" (i.e., very brief, conducted by instruction manuals) treatments for PTSD—and is "spun" as evidence the treatments work. Paper says "Both treatments resulted in meaningful decreases in clinician-rated PTSD jamanetwork.com/journals/jaman
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🙃 ɐʇǝɯ-Lulie 💜 (✈︎ SF)
@metaLulie
Because it’s based on emotional (& somatic) memories, not cognitive ones A lot of CPTSD happens precognitively, either before those kinds of memories are made (before age 2/3), or because the thing happened on a visceral emotional level and not understood at the time
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🙃 ɐʇǝɯ-Lulie 💜 (✈︎ SF)
@metaLulie
So any cognitive beliefs that come up from that will just be results of the underlying emotional generator Fix the emotional schema, the downstream beliefs will take care of themselves (emotional memory reconsolidation aka memory editing)
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)
@QiaochuYuan
there are variations that involve re-imagining how a memory could have gone a different way but that doesn't feel like "editing" to me either, it's not like i'm *replacing* the old memory. i am *expanding my awareness* to include *other possibilities* in the situation
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🟡 Michael is on silent retreat
@m_ashcroft
yeah exactly the same here, it always sounded kinda strange, technical and idk, dangerous? then I read more about it and realised it was basically what an old therapist was doing with me (different name) and it worked well and felt safe then, so I leaned into it
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