Conversation

Visa

SF (Aug 2-14)

@visakanv

Jan 9

I’ll simplify it further: ADHD is really ODD. Obedience deficit disorder. Some of us are wired to disobey. That’s it

Quote Tweet

brainlet

@magicianbrain

· Jan 8

idk why everyone is so confused about ADHD. it's just what happens when the alienation of modern life biases your central nervous system to produce disordered phenomenology such that variegated emotional blocks will hinder cogent evaluation of relational stakes. simple really

Show this thread

178

QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)

@QiaochuYuan

Jan 9

as much as i like the vibe of this i don’t actually think that’s what ADHD is. i still think gabor mate pretty much nailed it. what you’re describing is what he calls “counterwill” drgabormate.com/book/scattered

QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)

Quote Tweet

· Apr 13, 2020

The idea of counterwill, as introduced to me by Gabor Mate continues to inform how I view behavior

Show this thread

wait so the idea here is that counterwill is comorbid with ADD/ADHD, but not the same thing? what is ADD minus counterwill then?

QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)

@QiaochuYuan

Replying to

@visakanv

i’d say it’s a common symptom. minus counterwill you still have stuff like the classic attentional issues (even outside of school eg), also stuff like rejection sensitive dysphoria, which i think gabor mate would describe in terms of emotional dysregulation

5:34 PM · Jan 9, 2022Twitter for iPad

Replying to

and

The book was powerful. Counterwill explained so much in my life.

Quote Tweet

Juvoni Beckford

@juvoni

· Sep 16, 2021

Can't remember if a book has ever made me want to cry just as much as the highlighting I've added to it.

Replying to

hrm, in this frame I think of "attentional issues" *as* a manifestation of counterwill rather than something distinct from it

QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)

@QiaochuYuan

Jan 9

yeah it often occurs that way to me, that’s a fair way to slice it. i think the emotional dysregulation stuff is somewhat distinct though, or you could even argue that counterwill is a manifestation of it

Show replies