i think this thought first vaguely occurred to me reading this bit from SSC's review of PiHKaL and it's just lived in my head rent-free ever since, accreting a shell around itself made of thoughts about self-fulfilling prophecies, evaporative cooling, etc
slatestarcodex.com/2016/08/11/boo
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also this bit from "different worlds," also by SSC
"This is worrying not just as a psychiatrist, but as someone who wants to know anything about other people at all."
slatestarcodex.com/2017/10/02/dif
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i suppose insofar as this sort of thing happens the decent thing to do is to err on the side of believing psychological theories that attribute people a lot of agency and fundamental goodness
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coherence therapy calls this "symptom coherence" - taking the stance that every thing you do that drives you nuts makes deep sense once you get the underlying emotional reality that's driving it. it very cleanly articulates something i've been grasping at for years and years
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also relevant to questions like "why is everyone's psych book full of case studies of patients for whom that specific psych method works so perfectly"
presumably there are multiple selection effects going on, and then perhaps more subtle influence stuff?
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one word for this is "yoga"
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hmmmmmmmm can you elaborate on this?
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well should check my ass here but it's something like getting an attractor loop running in your belly/wherever and various forms of subtle communication pulling people into an analogue of it
if you watch Wild Wild Country and squint you can kinda see Osho doing it
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on some uses of the term “yoga”
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in SE Asian literature, the term “yogi” has often meant a magician or sorcerer with dangerous siddhis like levitation, raising the dead, and especially possession, that is, *linking* oneself to another in the interest of controlling them
see also the Buddhist “vetala” or vampire
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*screaming*
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YES 

so perhaps all meanings of "yoga" are descriptions of the newness that arises in the process of being in relationship
by which i also mean whatever "nonduality" might be
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so bringing it back to this context,
[very serious opinions voice] we might say that the "yoga of therapy" is the newness arising in the process of being in the "therapist-client" relationship
nice. much to chew on. thanks all for your thoughts and ineffable vibes 🙏
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