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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)
@QiaochuYuan
okay i don't know how to interpret gifted kid discourse anymore. in my schools "gifted" meant 140+ IQ or so, the kids there were very obviously reading way above grade level, learning calculus in freshman year of high school, that kind of stuff. is it not like that everywhere?
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owen cyclops
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idk where you guys went to school or what your experience was but the effect of this will be very extreme long term if they actually do it. in a lot of school gifted is just code for “actually teachable” and the normal classes are just non-functional 50-80% of the time. twitter.com/elizashapiro/s…
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)
@QiaochuYuan
i saw a tweet the other day that was like "you probably weren't gifted you were just benefiting from white privilege" but my gifted cohorts were majority asian 🤔 what the hell kind of gifted programs were the rest of you in twitter???
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forthrighter
@forthrighter
where I'm from gifted means you did well on a very particular test with fairly arbitrary topic coverage. Yes indeed, kids from the best families seem to be gifted more often than middle and low income kids; possibly due to cultural biases in the tests themselves
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mimi
@mimi10v3
This highlights the problem with the "gifted" label, vs framing as "in need of more challenging material"... Kids learning a new language prob don't need AP English class at that moment, however smart and capable... Retest and place accordingly every year or few.
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forthrighter
@forthrighter
yeah also without really objective criteria you basically just frame a political game that type-A parents get good at playing and arguing around, which is doubleplus BS
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forthrighter
@forthrighter
feedback loop becomes a type of privilege megaphone; privilege enables the engineering of biased games which amplify the same then other people mutter about why the afghani immigrants aren't pulling themselves up by their bootstraps
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forthrighter
@forthrighter
I could thread about afghani immigrant kids in the US school system with all at-home tech & parents who don't speak English during a pandemic and it'd make you forget all about the trivial problems of gifted programs
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