Upon reflection, I think the two camps might be:
• Humanities soft-spot/arts affinity ppl: The world is becoming spiritually bankrupt
• STEM ppl: But we have planes and don’t use leeches anymore
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It's jarring to hear half of long-termist people be like "the world just keeps getting better" and the other half be like "the dark age of civilization will only deepen"
I suppose saying something like "Some stuff has gotten better and some stuff worse" isn't very memey
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