now i kinda wanna do a gender poll about "is life about having appliances" but i'm not actually sure how to phrase the question properly
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alright whatever let's just do it
poll: what is your ~gender | is life about having appliances? (please see the next QT for some context elaborating on what this question is trying to probe)
- ~m | yes21%
- ~m | no55.3%
- ~f | yes11.2%
- ~f | no12.5%
385 votesFinal results
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it's awkward to point to this whole discussion but start here and scroll up
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Atomized modernity: did you mean "young women can move to the city alone, earn their own money, and have sex with people not chosen by their fathers?"
This appliance means freedom.
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this feels related in some deep sense to the Discourse about men sleeping on mattresses on the floor with no bedframes
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this is really well-put and feels really important to me re: the gendered split in the responses
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I feel like it’s about the thing where men have fewer close friends and so experience atomized modernity differently than women do.
Women are liberated by appliances from the oppressive aspects of a social fabric in which they are always already enmeshed. Men crave connection.
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I feel like it’s about the thing where men have fewer close friends and so experience atomized modernity differently than women do.
Women are liberated by appliances from the oppressive aspects of a social fabric in which they are always already enmeshed. Men crave connection.
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yes, thank you, this really feels like a central piece to me
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