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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)
@QiaochuYuan
it's worth acknowledging about the rationalists that they give lip service to empiricism but the Big Problem around which they nucleated, AI safety, was a problem where eliezer yudkowsky carefully explained that empiricism was impossible so theorizing was our only hope
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)
@QiaochuYuan
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Replying to @QiaochuYuan @m_ashcroft and @sashachapin
brb starting my own version of LessWrong and calling it WhatIfWeActuallyLookedAtTheTerritory
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)
@QiaochuYuan
probably every time i say “rationalists” i should say “bay area rationalists.” can you briefly describe what you take me to be saying and what you disagree with about it? i think i’m trying to make several points here incoherently so i’m not sure i’m even coming across accurately
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)
@QiaochuYuan
what kind of empiricism? moore’s law type stuff? this is not at all the impression i got from reading the sequences but i will admit i have no idea what the scene was like in 2004
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uncatherio
@uncatherio
Maybe reframing, I think this is a problem that rationality (& its community) "has", not a problem that rationality "is" (not that you claimed otherwise, but just to clarify)
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uncatherio
@uncatherio
"Rationalists" are not identical to "those who nucleated around Yudkowsky-vibe AI safety" have you read this? aiimpacts.org/the-tyranny-of It's a whole thing, it's real But lots of other rationalists went "huh yeah, seems like a big problem" and didn't have this whole thing happen
aiimpacts.org
The tyranny of the god scenario
Michael Wulfsohn is an AI Impacts researcher/contributor. I was convinced. An intelligence explosion would result in the sudden arrival of a superintelligent machine. Its abilities would far exceed...
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