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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)
@QiaochuYuan
i think it’s even odds the causality goes the other way: the stuff you joke about is presciently intuitively anticipating the way your reality is headed. i don’t think you can “force” the joking in whatever direction you want, i think the jokes will feel staler
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Visa ✈️ SF (Aug 2-14)
@visakanv
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the stuff you joke about (even ironically or whatever) has a way of shaping your reality so be careful and deliberate with that stuff. a lot of people out here fumbling their own bags by joking about outcomes they don’t want. you might as well joke about the outcomes you do want
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)
@QiaochuYuan
causality is weird. when you do some kind of magical / intention-based / will-based practice to change the course of your life, are you actually causally influencing the future or just coming into better alignment with the future that’s already happening? i genuinely dunno
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)
@QiaochuYuan
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oh hmm maybe it’s a false dichotomy. maybe will and intention are the same thing as coming into better alignment with the future. wack. i can sort of see the possibility intellectually but i don’t grok it at all really
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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)
@QiaochuYuan
anyway tbc this doesn’t really affect visa’s conclusion either way; i def agree that it pays off to be more careful about your words. but maybe there are people who are destined to do that after coming across the idea and there are people who aren’t 😬
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sadals🪐🔮d
@sadalsvvd
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on the one hand see QT, on the other my current view is that due to the order of karma there are certain events, conditions, people we WILL encounter. everything else is ostensibly within our control, and Hindu and Chinese astrologies both imply it
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sadals🪐🔮d
@sadalsvvd
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astrology supports metaphysical models for both free will, determinism, and something in-between. any line drawn in the sand ultimately exists within the astrologer, not the astrology
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sadals🪐🔮d
@sadalsvvd
but both imply it is extremely difficult to change one's karma. that is distinct from free will, unless you also consider the personality a karma. Gurdjieff for instance believes that free will can be developed but that 99.999% of people don't have it
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have been reading P. D. Ouspensky's In Search of the Miraculous, his account of his encounter with Gurdjieff and later understanding of the esoteric usages of the enneagram will post interesting highlights, starting with this. G was (mostly) a strict astrological determinist
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