and like i kinda get why they did that but it led to me being incredibly sheltered in a bunch of ways. they never even made me do chores. i was very spoiled and in retrospect it wasn't good for me
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anyway i could keep going a lot of stuff came up but i feel like i successfully resolved a big confusion that was preventing me from making progress on my life and that feels nice. i feel like i am a little bit more confronting the "actual stakes" wrt money
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the stakes are that the less money i make the harder it'll be for my parents to retire. my dad literally told me that. he said he was holding off on retiring because he was worried about me
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how to say this gently…
as a person who was raised…not to think money grew on trees…I was waiting for this point the whole thread. if you’re not working, someone else is working to support you: build the house you live in, run the grid, grow the food, build websites.
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generally this is considered acceptable for children and the elderly, and we expect able adults in their families to provide for them because, well, someone needs to do and everyone deserves to retire eventually (and have a nice childhood of some length)
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in our financial system, it’s possible to accumulate capital and live on returns on that capital as long as it’s well-managed (by someone, who is working). whether accumulated through hard work or not, this is done by someone looking to secure their and their offspring’s future
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if you have led an existence shielded from this reality to the point that your “relationship to money” is all of this extraneous baggage and not “how much do I need to work to support myself and ppl around me who can’t work, and to justify having others support me when I retire”
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then you are, in fact, extremely spoiled in a way that even trust fund kids are not (because they understand that the family fortune is a scarce thing that needs to be managed, hence the trust fund)
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note that “spoiled” does not mean “privileged”. trust fund kids are privileged, in that they live in a world with its own “private laws”. “spoiling” a kid is when you treat them in a way that ruins their ability to be responsible for themselves as adults.
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what I’m saying is: if someone gave me $100,000 right now (age 31), it would change my life, and I am not “poor” by any reasonable definition. it’s a little obscene seeing someone treat that amount as having primarily emotional significance.
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you're basically completely right as far as i can tell. idk if you'll see this but i responded in a QT
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this is the kind of thing that makes this whole topic hard to think about and relate to, for me. like i think i a little bit get it. it is obscene. not just a little obscene. really obscene. i could see someone reading this thread and fucking hating my guts twitter.com/aburisotto/sta…
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