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update: my sleep got much worse after not using the oral appliance for a week or so, so now i’m using it again + doing a lot of jaw stretches on the bright(er) side,

@Malcolm_Ocean

gave me the last push to try taping my mouth for sleep and it has been *shockingly* good

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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)

@QiaochuYuan

· May 23, 2021

it looks like the oral appliance i was using to treat my sleep apnea is causing temporomandibular joint issues so i'm gonna stop using it. now i have to deal with joint issues *and* sleep apnea :/ anyone have recs? apparently there are tongue exercises i can do???

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@BinarySmile

Jun 9, 2021

What do you use for taping? Is it something you'd recommend to try as an easy first step if the sleep/waking energy problems sound relatable?

QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)

@QiaochuYuan

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@Malcolm_Ocean

literally just normal scotch tape i bought at target b/c i wanted to do an experiment as cheaply as possible

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QC (in Berlin 7/29-???)

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and yes, would highly recommend as a relatively cheap experiment. the first night the tape took some getting used to but it’s been increasingly smooth from there. well worth potentially losing some sleep on the weekend to find out if it works for you imo

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@BinarySmile

Jun 9, 2021

Overall idea is just you're supposed to nose breathe? Sounds like our problems might be similar, I get plenty of sleep timewise but always wake up groggy and unrested. Recommend seeing a sleep specialist or does independent research seem like it can cover basics first?

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