Conversation

We start with the ancients. It's a warm summers evening in ancient Greece, and the ancient Greeks were busy aspiring towards lives of individual agency, freedom, debate, fuelling curiosity, philosophy and discovery.
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Meanwhile in Confucian philosophy, the self is viewed in relation to communities, and interpersonal frictionlessness is the ideal, so that it is the group as a whole that is powerful and agentic. (me, on the sidelines: "Both?" *nod* "Both.")
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The Greeks valued curiosity for its own sake, but the Chinese stopped investigating phenomena when they became intractable. β€œIn Confucianism there was no thought of knowing that did not entail some consequence for action.”
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The Greeks: really really cared about ontology; definitions, objects, properties, what was fundamental and what wasn't. The Chinese: "Nah"
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The fascination with debate, separation and distinctness meant that the Greeks were unique in being able to recognise the map-territory distinction
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The Yin-Yang concept and symbol are actually pointing at the idea of "A and not A" (maybe this where I inherited my penchant for answering "both" to every "or" question)
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