"race" "class", meaningless words without giving detailed definitions
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What class is a blue collar business owner? A doctor employed at a large hospital she has no ownership of?
What race is an Irish traveller? A Bulgarian? A Romania? Are Slovaks the same race as French? Germans?
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Idk what race I am unless you tell me what you mean by race, despite knowing my family tree stretching back hundreds of years
I'm the first in my family to get a degree. My father studied philosophy and was a union organiser, my grandfather a docker. Am I working class? Middle?
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With apologies to but I found your question alien and hard to usefully answer
You'd probably expect "white, <answer>", I'd prefer to say "Irish, (but literally), <answer>", both are so muddy as to be meaningless without immense shared context and understanding
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yeah that makes sense the tweets were just not enough space to elaborate on what i was actually after and why - like i didn't even mention i was really only looking for responses from americans
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the thing i was trying to get at was something about "class socialization" but it's messy and hard to point at and also i don't understand it at all so i'm asking bad questions and hopefully i'll learn something from doing that anyway
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To be clear not trying to drag
The idea you're trying to get at it incredibly messy and poorly defined and if you can figure out a way to talk about it concisely that'd be astounding
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fwiw i think for you i agree that "irish" is a much more accurate answer than "white" and that there's something really wonky about "white" as a category
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The occasionally maligned race theorists correctly, imo, point out that "whiteness" is an extremely recent phenomenon (the American Irish literally "became white" in living or near living memory), and go on to talk about it being a mostly about power
Tricky stuff
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