“jeez look at you, can’t do anything right, can’t even stop yourself from being angry the way the therapist told you to”
part of the damage here is the idea that these techniques are supposed to solve your problem; easy to conclude that if they don’t then it’s your fault
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failed attempts at self-transformation can also produce resistance to future attempts at self-transformation, as various parts of the bodymind conclude that it’s unsafe and will not actually help them get their needs met. not a great place to be in! better to use good tech!
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further reading: UtEB is most of the core of my framework for analyzing and comparing and debugging techniques, would still highly recommend as a read for anyone who wants that:
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Me being triggered slightly by this thread and looking at what's at the core of that:
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I dislike the "layering vs. unlayering" frame because it perpetuates the idea that all we have to do is remove all our trauma and then we'll respond perfectly to every situation.
Even if you get rid of all your hangups with people, communication is still hard, skills are needed.
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Ooooh yeah, great point about the metaphor—I'm also resistant (though differently to you) to the image of "clean it all up then you're done".
Though 's "layering" frame has done a lot for me, including in my programming work!
eg:
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I sometimes frame it as "untangling" too.
I guess what I might say is something like, no amount of *just* delayering is sufficient, but since most techniques and experiences *add* layers, it is an utterly vital dimension to track and attend to in organizing anything (psych &+).
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I prefer "counteractive" to "layering" since "counteractive" points more specifically to the problem, whereas "layering" doesn't distinguish between good and bad layering.
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this is a good point! i guess what i like about “layering” is the idea that there can be more than two layers 😛
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hey
hey
hey
I had a belated realization
what if...
what if...
what if...
we called it...
"counteractive layering"?
😂
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