what kind of damage can you do to yourself the counteractive / layering way? let’s say you also have a strong inner critic, for example. when you notice yourself failing to properly counteract your anger, that can become another thing for your inner critic to latch onto
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“jeez look at you, can’t do anything right, can’t even stop yourself from being angry the way the therapist told you to”
part of the damage here is the idea that these techniques are supposed to solve your problem; easy to conclude that if they don’t then it’s your fault
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failed attempts at self-transformation can also produce resistance to future attempts at self-transformation, as various parts of the bodymind conclude that it’s unsafe and will not actually help them get their needs met. not a great place to be in! better to use good tech!
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further reading: UtEB is most of the core of my framework for analyzing and comparing and debugging techniques, would still highly recommend as a read for anyone who wants that:
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Me being triggered slightly by this thread and looking at what's at the core of that:
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I dislike the "layering vs. unlayering" frame because it perpetuates the idea that all we have to do is remove all our trauma and then we'll respond perfectly to every situation.
Even if you get rid of all your hangups with people, communication is still hard, skills are needed.
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yeah, to be clear, the claim isn't that layering is all bad and delayering is all good - in the "spaghetti code" metaphor the limit of "full delayering" is deleting all the code and then nothing happens! ("sutrayana zombie"?)
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but i've benefited from being able to think about and attempt to notice layering vs. delayering as a thing that is sometimes happening. i think it's fair to say that excessive layering is common and many people could use more delayering on the margin
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then, as you say, there's a hard "reconstruction after deconstruction" question of what else to do; how to acquire new skills appropriate to current challenges, etc etc
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I vaguely feel like "reconstruction after deconstruction" is pointing in a sufficiently similar direction as my recent thread that I have social license to plug it, despite it not being strictly about this.
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Notes on Soulmaking Dharma, based on a conversation with my friend.
Epistemic status: had dozens of hours of lecture summarized to me in two hours. Summarizing that and adding own interpretations. Might get a lot wrong, don't really know what I'm talking about.
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yeah the tiny bit i know about soulmaking dharma seems v relevant!