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now that im almost done w Plato's Republic, im shocked... shocked that they assign this text to undergrads. i wouldn't have been able to make heads or tails of it. no wonder all my friends who read it in college hated it.
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Plato says it in the text itself: students of philosophy should study music and physical training, then go deep into mathematics, then you can move onto dialectic around age 25-30 (the style of writing Plato was doing)
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