ok so: the is/ought problem, but for feelings
x happens
I feel angry
wait, before the anger is fear
wait, there is sadness, then fear, then anger
why is "sadness" where the rubber meets the road?
is it "x happens; associatively retrieve related memory y; feel those feelings"?
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but how did I have the feelings in y? infinite regress?
maybe emotional system doesn't distinguish retrieved memory from present? so this problem only shows up when u react to the past instead of the present, but it is also possible to react to the present?
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the way lays it out in the bio-emotive framework is like this: prior to emotions like “sad” or “angry” something happens to you and you have an “interpersonal feeling” about it, e.g. “betrayed” or “abandoned”; often projections / flashbacks to past stuff
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I read and listened to some of his stuff, & like what I took away
if it's not a flashback, how does the emotional rubber meet the road? I think I realized that so many of my emotions were reactive than I am now confused as to how one could not be
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hm can you elaborate a little on what you mean by “rubber meet the road” and non-reactive? (i have a guess but want to double-check)
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like... if I didn't have a deep sense of worthlessness, why would I assume no text => I am being abandoned? so, the interpersonal feeling comes up because of this old belief... that is what I mean by "reactive"
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yeah gotcha. so roughly the way i lay it out for myself is that what doug calls the emotional brain is assigning meanings to social situations very quickly, faster than conscious thought. meanings are assigned based on a kind of hierarchical bayesian update
by which i just mean that they’re heavily influenced by your low-level felt beliefs about the world, your relation to it, how other people are likely to relate to you
so deep underlying feeling of worthlessness ➡️ ready to believe that people are going to abandon you
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