> self aware growth oriented nerdy hedonists
definitely checks all of those boxes
is all about "friendly ambitious nerds"
is the most hedonistic startup founder I know
is vibing & growing
is getting out of hand in a good way
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hand me the wire I’m ready when you are
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people in this thread debating all the different nuances and subtypes of hedonism and which they fit and I’ll just let you know I am all of them
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If you don’t know him, checkout . Reading his post on improving opioids when I was like 25 made me want to cry
Had my first opioids at 12 and I freaked out and told the doctor why aren’t more people tweaking this to be safer and make everyone happy, he yelled at me
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I feel like there’s this big weird joke going on where like obviously everyone should be happy / high well-being but like everyone pretends we shouldn’t work on it directly for some reason we should work on 50,000 other unrelated projects instead and hope they make us happy
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And then people say you shouldn’t try to be happy, even though the happy outliers pretty much all tried to be happy then did things know to make you happy then it worked and they’re like yeah do that. But the not-super-happy are like yeah the way to be happy is to try not to be
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i continue to think that you are completely wrong about happiness fwiw
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wrong in goal (we shouldn’t aim to be happy), mechanism (not trying to be happy is the key to being happy), or both?
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i think people very visibly and very obviously want things other than happiness and that fixating on happiness is a philosophical mistake, but admittedly it depends a lot on the precise referent of “happiness”
i think a thing people def want is to *not be chronically unhappy*
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i think another very common pattern that e.g. romeo stevens has talked about is people using unhappiness as a stick to get themselves to do things, e.g. “i’m not allowed to be happy until i finish all my work,” and that it would be better for such patterns to not be there
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i think this for reasons that don’t ground out in happiness per se. when people allow themselves to be happy more human flourishing happens. but happiness as such is not the point, imo
honestly i can’t tell if we actually disagree or where we do because each word only poorly describes the underlying thing, and when I only have like 70% confidence in every word error compounds quickly
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you might have a better idea of where we disagree than I do, and if so I’d appreciate if you could clarify it, but I also get if that just sounds like a lot of work
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